Building a Sheer Cold VGC Team | Pokémon Champions
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server community is actively theorycrafting a unique competitive team centered around the No Guard Sheer Cold strategy. This discussion covers essential team roles, including speed control, physical attackers, and support options like Incineroar and Whimsicott. Join the conversation to refine your VGC builds and learn how to optimize your team composition for competitive play.
Lol somone help me make this team. The idea is to have mr rime use roleplay on mega raichu Y to get that no guard, and then use sheer cold. What should the other pokemons be?
you can use sneasler or incin to offer fake out support and big damage to the ice types sheer cold cant hit
incin is probably better for this job though
because it hits frosslass and intimidate
I see
What are the roles a team needs to have though?
Like speed controller and sp atker for an example?
you might want tailroom
and wouldnt your special attacker be raichu?
I have whims and talonflame not sure which one to use for tailw
It was just an example
maybe also sin to heal mr ryme
Yep yep
I have sin
I def would use sin
So rime, raichu, sin and…whims/talon?
whims is better in this format
I was also the thinking about alolan ninetails
Switch it in for the snow in case mr rime goes against some strong af phys atker
Also has aurora veil which is nice
you might want a secondary mega because yaichu can be threataned hard
thats what intimidate incin is for
So i shouldnt bring ninetails?
Still seems like a pretty good addition to me but idk
it can work, but there are other things with higher value
Yeah not sure which mega to use. I was thinking either zard Y or frosslass
also you already have a fairy and an ice type so theres a bit of overlap
i was thinking zard Y staraptor
both immune to ground
Rime, raichu, sin, whims, and incin
I kinda need a phys atker dont i
Staraptor?
so staraptor?
yeah
Yeah helps for a second mode too
that also means you ca give whims charm
Whims and raptor
yeah
I watched cybertrons vid thi
it's everywhere lol
He says i should use tickle
One atk raptor ohkos almost eveyrthing
oh tickle nah
Oh
tickle is better on malamr
I see
and its already decently physically bulky
it can already boost it's defenses, but not attack
besides if staraptors down, you get move vaule out of charm slowing down stuff like bascu and chomp
Whims, raptor, mr rime, sinis, incin and yaichu
yeah that can work really well
One more tiny thinh
Err
Could u give me like every single thing for them
Items abilities ev spreads and nature
I kinda suck at those
I already have a sheer cold yaichu team lol, i can start off that
Thanks alotttt
Alright, heres what i made https://pokepast.es/ea91b1c4ae1f88f7
the item spot on sin is a bit expendable though
change it to what feels better in practice
Thats pretty great
I have a few questions tho
okay?
Incin runs darkest lariat instead of close combat?
it hits harder most of the time, besides it isnt max attack sets that has both
I see
Sinis tho
I thought i wanted life dew
after stab hits harder with 127.5 base power compared to 120
life dew?
Yeah
you want it over protect?
Kinda
Not sure if its ideal tho
you kinda need tr since rime isnt too fast
But life dew js seems rlly nice to have
Yeah so im keeping tr
you knida really need it on raid boss mon like staraptor and floette
actually, since you have staraptor, maybe?
Yeah
So ima use life dew over protect?
see how that feels in practice, but i think it'll work
Thanks
And abt me rime
Psychic isnt bad at all but i initially thought of ice beam
Psychic is better right
both dont really matter too much since you want to press sheer cold anyways
but it hits sneasler before it has no guard which is nice
Ohhh
I see
and sheer cold hits everything except ice
Ice are immune to sheer cold right
which you have focus blast, flare blitz, and close combat for that
yep, since gen 8
And about whims
I knew u were gonna run moonblast
But what abt encore
I can imagine lots of situations wgere encore would rlly fk up the opponent
you want to enable staraptor or disable an opponent
Enable staraptor?
Hang on what
protect can be replaced, but if your opponent fake out + some other double up, it dies
i forgot to write charm lol
Yeah im not removing protect on whims
So encore or moonblast?
Both have their pros and cons
true
but you also get crippled by taunt
Yeah that sucks
also if your opponent is sashed, you can double up with sheer cold
True
Ig im keeping moonblast
its overall stronger
Thats about it i think
Thanks a bunch for ur help!
Wait
Can i do leftovers on sinis or incin
Would it work
I apologize for repeatedly bugging u 🥹
np
Uhhh passho lets you survive wave crash in rain from bascu (after intimidate) and a weather ball from peli
and incin doesnt need too much recoverery
Would leftovers sinis work
Especially when paired with life dew
it ussually doesnt survive long enough to get worth
Oh
ive seen some on ladder and its ussually not long enough for the hp to matter
leftovers is more of a singles item because those matches las a lot longer
Do i rlly want tr tho
Yes it supports mr rime
But i have a bunch of fast pokemon like raichu
And whims
Whims has prankster so its a bit less of a worry
you also have a bunch of slower mon like incin and sin
its just a secondary mode
I see
because if you see your opponent with some tailwind set that threatens your megas, suddenly tailwind isnt doing so much anymore
Oh yeahhh
the thing about tailroom is if they dont have tailwind, you set up the room, if they do, you reverse it and/or set up the wind
Thanks
so sorry i have more questions 😭
Why is whims so focused on defense and absolutely nothing on sp def?
Bold nature and full def evs and stuff
Nothing on sp def
Raichu too
U went for hasty nature which reduces def for speed
Why not timid, which reduces atk for speed?
Raichus a sp atker
Same thing for sinistcha
Why relaxed when bold exists
Relaxed gives -speed
Unless u want it to be better in trick room
I did? must've been a misclick
yep, better for tr
its not suviving many special super efffecive moves anyways. it also lets me guarrented survive dual wingbeat aero
assuming they dont get lucky
Thx
do i add gholdengo to my team?
I just got it and i heard its pretty good
its good but the better question is does it fit on the team?
prob not
Prob not
Yeah
