Expanding Force/Snow VGC Team Ideas
Summary
In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement explores a dual-mode team: a Mega Alakazam/Meowstic screen core with Aurora Veil Alolan Ninetales and a snow mode featuring Mega Greninja spamming Blizzard. The OP asks for EV spreads, Greninja moveset, and suggestions for teammates like Sneasler, Corviknight or Dragonite to handle Pelipper, Archeops and bulky threats.
so i’ve been thinking abt making a mega alakazam/meowstic team, where meowstic sets up psychic terrain and screens as mega alakazam just sweeps
but they’re both pretty frail pkmn, even with screens so the next pkmn would be alolan ninetales, aurora veil gives some more bulk
then i would need another team mode, so you take advantage of the snow and put mega greninja to spam blizzard 🗣️🗣️🥶🥶🥶
next could add smth like sneasler for dark types like ttar and kingambit, maybe corviknight for tailwind and a pokemon that can actually take hits, but i’m unsure so i’d like to get some hep there 🙏🙏
stuff i need help with:
- EV’s for meowstic and greninja
- greninja moveset
- other pokemon to fill out the team
https://pokepast.es/8791b1f41445a4c3
I'm here
What's going on
helloo
Well uh first off
Veil and screens don't stack
Bad one
deadass 🥀
In tr you actually have 3 lol
Idk if zam will work boss
Sorry to bring it to you but all those dark types
Are kinda annoying
If you hit your blasts you win tho
Maybe run gravity?
Yes
it does
Yuh
i see
ty for the help 🙏🙏
what do u think of meowscarada?
basculegion and m starmie counters
ah
on paper seemed like a good counter
fast, the typing is great for the team imo
i was thinking kingambit too
but it’s too slow
samurott 👀
yes
but
still slow
👀
is bulky basc a thing?
thought most people were going for more offensive EVs
uh huh
should 6th mon be smth to counter weather?
i don’t think there is any weather that “helps” really
i’ve thought abt this, and tbh mega ttar doesn’t really bother me that much. i have 3 mons who have moves against it, and they’re all faster than mega ttar (i think)
what actually bothers me is peliper and arch. so why not dragonite? it has access to good moves against them both, and 26+ Spe outspeeds m ttar, pelipper and 32 arch.
it’s also pretty bulky
however idk if any of dragonite’s moves ohko arch
and stamina is a big problem if so
could even go for scarf to reach higher speed tiers while investing in atk more
special attacking dragonite 🥶🥶
lowk forgot hydreigon existed
but that should do it
32+ SpA Hydreigon Earth Power vs. 2 HP / 0 SpD Archaludon: 156-184 (93.4 - 110.1%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
naw
32+ SpA Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 2 HP / 0 SpD Archaludon: 168-198 (100.5 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
what does that do
ohh
fr fr
then earth power, dragon pulse, dark pulse and protect?
https://pokepast.es/b9533aefac6047c2
tadaaa
just gotta test it now
sooo
i played 10 matches
got 5 losses in a row…
BUT THEN 5 WINS IN A ROW
😍
i personally think it’s good
but you have to be very careful
meowstic and m alakazam are frail
so yeah i like it
:p
the team is essentially anti sneasler
lmao
also gengar is a good matchup
i don’t think so, sneasler ohkos
and if that doesn’t do it, alakazam has focus blast
i went up against 1 kingambit and that happened
bad matchups would be like
tr teams
archaludon
milotic (if you lead with incin that’s how i lost one game TwT)
m scizzor can also be a problem
samurott covers for essentially the same stuff while having higher def and spdef
is also faster
and stronger
no wait i saw the female stats
mb it’s not stronger
but it is faster
i mean i don’t see a problem with basc either
but it’s weak to dark
and i wanted alakazam counters
to be covered for
hmm
sneasler and meowstic
then incin and alakazam in the back
maybe not incin, who’s the rain setter?
hydreigon has to be on the team
first and foremost
looks good against basc and arch
meowstic and hydreigon, then sneasler and alakazam in the back
sneasler lead doesn’t look great for me tho but yeah TwT
I was thinking the same but am not sure sneaslers would like to lead against a psyspam team
holy shit i had my h samurott specially trained by accident 😭😭😭
it still did good damage but like
it was with -Atk TwT
You should be modest about its achievements
i finally have the team in champions
it’s only going to make its debut in ranked in the next season tho
i wanna see how far i can get with it
i’ll try to document it here
because i can
What if new Pokemon and items get added?
I'm not sure on the new pokemon. New items are a bit more likely and if that is the case I have taken Monday off and will be probably in VC building basic cores for each of the megas all day with new items
probably not new pokemon, only at the start of s3
and abt the items, idk if i wanna change anything tbh
Choice band/specs, heavy duty boots, rocky helmet, air balloon, loaded dice, clear amulet, safety goggles, weakness policy, assault vest, life orb, toxic orb/sludge, expert belt
Would be the list needed to make this format really pop off and get creative
Flame orb conk is going to be crazy
