Mega Frosslass Success and Arc-H Swap?

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community is discussing a powerful new Mega Frosslass team build. This announcement covers strategic optimizations, including the transition from Incineroar to Arcanine-Hisui and the utility of Electroweb on Rotom-Wash. Members are refining their sets for Kingambit and Garchomp to ensure peak competitive performance in the current VGC meta.

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TL,DR: team has felt good, thinking about dropping incineroar for Arc-H, thoughts?

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sharpcactus-39 OP

Something I should add is that rotom probably shouldn't just be max max but I'm lazy so it'll stay like that until it barely dies to a crit rock slide or something

swiftnectar-35

Definitely agree on the harcanine swap, if you aren't using incineroar anyways you're diversifying types for little cost.

swiftnectar-35

My last move on my rotom-wash is electroweb, ik three electric moves is a bit mad but the speed control is really helpful for me

sharpcactus-39 OP

Yeah electroweb might be a good last move here I agree, it would give the team a mode of speed control outside of Viv which would be nice

sharpcactus-39 OP

Now I just need to find the arc set that the team is going for

sharpcactus-39 OP

This team fr feels like it breaks even in every popular matchup with just the first 5 Pokemon is crazy

sharpcactus-39 OP

https://pokepast.es/23b8f74875c99de6

sharpcactus-39 OP

Okay made some changes, team feels very solid now. Only swaps I'm considering are defiant for supreme overlord on Gambit to make it an unbeatable late game cleaner and dragon claw for swords dance on chomp to get the jump during free turns

sharpcactus-39 OP

Plot is supposed to be shadow ball on lass forgot to update that

swiftnectar-35

I think you should keep defiant, it's a really good intimidater check not to mention speed drops or the occasional moonblast/muddy water/etc

sharpcactus-39 OP

I agree it's just something I've been thinking about since defiant has triggered like twice in my 80ish ladder games

sharpcactus-39 OP

Since most of my threats are special people rarely bring their intimidates

sharpcactus-39 OP

So far the most important thing defiant has done is turn cleave into a setup move into king's shield

swiftnectar-35

Ah lol, ig that's not nothing, and it serves as a deterrent to let you more easily predict what mons they'll bring

sharpcactus-39 OP

It's definitely close but I suspect that a 10 or 20% boost to attacks in most games is better than a 50% or 2x boost in just a few

sharpcactus-39 OP

That being said I don't actually know what new KOs that actually opens up

sharpcactus-39 OP

Most recent set of changes feels really good

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