Mega Lucario VGC Teambuilding Guide | Pokémon Champions

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community shares an in-depth look at building a competitive team around Mega Lucario. This discussion covers essential teambuilding, including the integration of Rillaboom and Mega Salamence to balance the squad. Members provide tactical advice and Pokepaste resources to help players refine their strategies and improve their performance in VGC battles.

happyknight-58 OP

feel free to look it over I want to learn everything about the game changes as well as battles and tactics from scratch but this is what is currently listed but all are built accordingly

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happyknight-58 OP

Most if not all my Pokemon builds were left unchanged

royalcloud-73

i need to see the pokepaste

royalcloud-73

without moves items etc i will have zero idea on whats going on

happyknight-58 OP

Sure give me one moment

snowypanther-61

Yuh

happyknight-58 OP

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happyknight-58 OP

Here you go

happyknight-58 OP

Amy Pokémon that needs to be replaced

happyknight-58 OP

Rillaboom isn’t in my game yet but I have one

happyknight-58 OP

Anything else

royalcloud-73

https://pokepast.es/6764aa695849a250

royalcloud-73

thats what i would run

royalcloud-73

for those who struggle loading

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happyknight-58 OP

I’ll have to grab Salamance and Rillaboom from my home

royalcloud-73

pump it into showdown and give it some test runs

royalcloud-73

see how it feels

royalcloud-73

but yeah id run that for a second mega option when lucario just wont go well

happyknight-58 OP

Makes sense I got caught off guard by a Mega Salamance earlier

royalcloud-73

i havent tested it myself

royalcloud-73

i mean i am just coming back too

royalcloud-73

but im the guy who built that xard team for you so the reasoning at least i can promise is sound

royalcloud-73

that i debated and just playing balance over tailwind

royalcloud-73

but im not sure just how badly its needed quite yet

happyknight-58 OP

I’m low on vp might be a bit

happyknight-58 OP

At least when it comes to items

happyknight-58 OP

Took me awhile to find my Salamance

happyknight-58 OP

Ok team’s built

royalcloud-73

just practice with it for a bit and see how it feels

royalcloud-73

ping me with whatever matchup problems you run into and we will workshop it

happyknight-58 OP

I think I found one

happyknight-58 OP

I’m not sure yet

happyknight-58 OP

I found a potential match up problem

happyknight-58 OP

I got caught off guard by a Mega Raichu Y and a Sneasler and got clobbered

royalcloud-73

yeah rai y takes some practice to get around and sneas needs to be beaten prio

royalcloud-73

the sneas matchup team has zero weaknesses to

royalcloud-73

but hyper voice will do most of the damage needed flash cannon will do most of the damage needed to get it close for a grassy glide cleanup

royalcloud-73

i have been handling rai y and sneas combos with incin and rilla

royalcloud-73

intimidate and parting shot cycle the sneasler to nuke its stats then maybe swap a move on rilla for high horsepower

royalcloud-73

hell even a miracle seed boosted grassy glide can possibly one shot rai y ill have to do calcs

royalcloud-73

fake out grassy glide aqua jet make balance a ton better. both hyper voices are not resisted by either mons

royalcloud-73

but can always trade out u turn for high horsepower to deal with rai y

royalcloud-73

on rilla

royalcloud-73

i have not played enough of the team or format to fine tune yet but things possible for swap are tailwind for flamethrower on salamence, uturn on rilla could be swapped for high horsepower for coverage, i like having basculegion on the team but if any mon has to be swapped i would say its him. can rotate him out for something a bit bulkier to handle matchups the team already doesnt handle well like farigiraf or (god forbid) indeedee F both would fit into the slot fairly well

royalcloud-73

kingambit also can fit. gholdengo could slide into this slot fairly well. but kingambit is probably the best answer. safe swap in to cover rai y and dire claw spam defiant fixes the matchup into opposing incineroar you get steel and dark type coverage to handle other matchups in grassy it gets a heal every turn as well and cuts eq in half

royalcloud-73

idk ill try some more things

royalcloud-73

this works so much better

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happyknight-58 OP

How much better

happyknight-58 OP

Sorry I didn’t respond I just woke up

merrykitten-85

56.3% better

happyknight-58 OP

I see and compared to this how much better is it

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happyknight-58 OP

I’m not doubting anything I’m just asking

happyknight-58 OP

you think the team I’m currently using is the best for my Mega Lucario Z

@happyknight-58 I see and compared to this how much better is it ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/15…
rapidcipher-81

This is much better if u wanna use lica

rapidcipher-81

Luca

rapidcipher-81

Maybe not the best in the workd

rapidcipher-81

But better

@happyknight-58 I see and compared to this how much better is it ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/15…
royalcloud-73

very much better than the first one. i was up all night fucking with it and the second rough draft is MUCH better. not perfect it still needs tweaked but i won closer to ten than before

@royalcloud-73 this works so much better ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1558347813702860840/15584…
rapidcipher-81

Just lying

rapidcipher-81

If u put metagross maybe

royalcloud-73

terrain pulse works so much better than the first team i built

@happyknight-58 I see and compared to this how much better is it ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/15…
rapidcipher-81

This team feels more standard and can actually win games

royalcloud-73

i literally built them both

royalcloud-73

you do realize that right

royalcloud-73

i built and played both teams

rapidcipher-81

Yes but

rapidcipher-81

You said run mega houndoom on a rain team

rapidcipher-81

I genuinely dont trust you

rapidcipher-81

And id argue im a better player so ik what im talking about no offense :wolfe_pog:

royalcloud-73

the one time you and i fought it went like 16 turns and you won to a crit

royalcloud-73

you also think any mon or idea outside of meta is trash and cant utilize mons outside of it. so yeah ill take that w a grain of salt as well

royalcloud-73

but hey! lets see what the most popular way to play zucario is. id hazard a guess its terrain pulse

@royalcloud-73 you also think any mon or idea outside of meta is trash and cant utilize mons outside of it. so yea…
rapidcipher-81

Not true

rapidcipher-81

I literally won a tour with weavikd

rapidcipher-81

Talk to me when you get a mon like that goof results

royalcloud-73

weavile isnt what ANYONE would consider a trash mon lmfao

rapidcipher-81

I took meganium to a top cut ☠️

rapidcipher-81

Like

rapidcipher-81

Neither of your teams are off meta at all sk your point makes no sende

royalcloud-73

meganium rain isnt hard whatsoever bro

royalcloud-73

and the team isnt even for ME

@royalcloud-73 meganium rain isnt hard whatsoever bro
rapidcipher-81

It wasnt rain

royalcloud-73

then youre facing trash if they cant beat meganium outside of raid

rapidcipher-81

☠️

rapidcipher-81

Your downplaying anything i can do

royalcloud-73

you think it makes you better.

rapidcipher-81

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rapidcipher-81

With weavile

royalcloud-73

unlike you i built and played both teams and built both teams

@royalcloud-73 you think it makes you better.
rapidcipher-81

I mean i dont think i know

royalcloud-73

when you go play both of them i made then come talk to me

royalcloud-73

brother i have tour WINS top cuts arent HARD

royalcloud-73

weavile isnt BAD

@royalcloud-73 when you go play both of them i made then come talk to me
rapidcipher-81

One is literally just a metagross team with zucario

@royalcloud-73 weavile isnt BAD
rapidcipher-81

Your entire point is i clown off meta mons

royalcloud-73

you do

rapidcipher-81

Which is stupidity

royalcloud-73

weavile has been vgc valid and common for years

rapidcipher-81

Not in mc

rapidcipher-81

at all

royalcloud-73

its not an accomplishment. its seen tons of play in most regs

rapidcipher-81

Your point has been disproven its wtvr

royalcloud-73

youre literally bragging about using a well established very good vgc doubles mon like you discovered something new

rapidcipher-81

I literally love using off meta bs dont talk about how i like a game n say it wrong 💔 i like GOOD off meta mons

rapidcipher-81

Not people tryna justify wigglytuff

rapidcipher-81

Or golurk

royalcloud-73

nothing bad about golurk mega whatsoever. YOU just cant play them

royalcloud-73

i did my mb climb w golurk mega. wasnt hard at all

royalcloud-73

just because youre ass w mons doesnt mean they are ass mons vro

@royalcloud-73 i did my mb climb w golurk mega. wasnt hard at all
rapidcipher-81

Ladder is so fuckin easy

rapidcipher-81

I can climb with mega ampharos

rapidcipher-81

Ladder literally after ultra is the "hard" part

royalcloud-73

now. just because i can 80% wr with a team you cant only means you gotta play different things

royalcloud-73

either build him a team or shut the fuck up

rapidcipher-81

Ladder ≠ good

royalcloud-73

wasting my time

@royalcloud-73 either build him a team or shut the fuck up
rapidcipher-81

Literally said which is better

rapidcipher-81

First one is just a metagross team without the metagross

rapidcipher-81

And 2nd is actually good

rapidcipher-81

Your arguing about vgc skills

royalcloud-73

i built them both.

rapidcipher-81

When ladder is meaningless

royalcloud-73

ik which one is better.

@royalcloud-73 i built them both.
rapidcipher-81

So 1/2

royalcloud-73

terrain pulse zucario is the better team

royalcloud-73

of the two teams i built

@royalcloud-73 ik which one is better.
rapidcipher-81

"Ah yes i played 10 games rated at 1000 elo this is good knowledge"

royalcloud-73

alr youre still a muppet

royalcloud-73

go waste someone elses time

rapidcipher-81

You are just sayin bs

royalcloud-73

youre literally just wasting my fucking time

rapidcipher-81

Terrain pulse luca Z

royalcloud-73

shut your worthless ass up or go build a team

royalcloud-73

done w this

@royalcloud-73 shut your worthless ass up or go build a team
rapidcipher-81

Holy rage

royalcloud-73

holy fucking time waste

royalcloud-73

i have shit to do build him a team or shut the fuck up

happyknight-58 OP

I found a team for Mega Lucario Z I wanted to try and I somehow got 2 4-0 sweeps with it

happyknight-58 OP

Maybe bots or players I’m not sure I’m in Great Rank

happyknight-58 OP

And I got some 4-0 sweeps

happyknight-58 OP

Only suffered 1 loss with this new team

happyknight-58 OP

I found it while studying Mega Lucario Z on YouTube and I love it

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@happyknight-58 I found it while studying Mega Lucario Z on YouTube and I love it ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.c…
rapidcipher-81

Whos is this

happyknight-58 OP

I think it’s from That’s a plus one

rapidcipher-81

The only issue with this team is it has almost no damage output and its damage relys on setup or rillaboom

happyknight-58 OP

Yeah I did notice that issue when I lost 1 match

rapidcipher-81

Well how many did you play

happyknight-58 OP

3 matches I think 2 wins and 1 loss

rapidcipher-81

You need more data to pick up on it

rapidcipher-81

But i can tell there isnt much damage

happyknight-58 OP

Yeah I’ll get more battles in

rapidcipher-81

I wanna build zucario

rapidcipher-81

Ngl

rapidcipher-81

It just has a issue being weak to sneasler and chomp Z

happyknight-58 OP

Yeah the lack of damage is a glaring issue for this team I’m seeing more after battling with a friend

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happyknight-58 OP

Do we know if there’s a pokemon that can fix this issue or if any changes are needed without ruining the team’s synergy

happyknight-58 OP

I noticed a match up problem against with my Mega Lucario team and need some help to work around it

rapidcipher-81

What is it

happyknight-58 OP

The Charizard team or my own

rapidcipher-81

Oh

rapidcipher-81

Whats your zuca team rn?

@happyknight-58 The Charizard team or my own
rapidcipher-81

I didnt see the yard part

happyknight-58 OP

Sorry about that but this is my current Lucario Z team

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rapidcipher-81

What are you bringing

happyknight-58 OP

One of the Megas, Rillaboom, Ninetales and Basculegion

happyknight-58 OP

Order varies but I only 1 of the megas on this team either Lucario or Garchomp Z

happyknight-58 OP

Hadn’t found a match up to use Incineroar on

@happyknight-58 One of the Megas, Rillaboom, Ninetales and Basculegion
rapidcipher-81

Thats your issue

happyknight-58 OP

Am I not using the right line up

happyknight-58 OP

Is my team built wrong or is it a skill issue I’m having or all of the above

@happyknight-58 Am I not using the right line up
rapidcipher-81

No no

rapidcipher-81

You just have to use chomp Z and position tails correctly

rapidcipher-81

I feel like incin is decent but its probably the most dropable

happyknight-58 OP

You think Incineroar can drop out safely in my team

@happyknight-58 You think Incineroar can drop out safely in my team
rapidcipher-81

How often are you bringing incin

rapidcipher-81

Cus i mean imo you need a better mu into yard + arch

rapidcipher-81

Teams

happyknight-58 OP

I haven’t been able to use Incineroar at all lately

rapidcipher-81

Only issue is dropping incin drops another month thats good into dengo

@royalcloud-73 for those who struggle loading ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1558347813702860840/…
wildmirror-28

I used to use a team nearly EXACTLY like this

wildmirror-28

I used Sneasler over sylveon tho

wildmirror-28

And my lucario spread was 32 hp 22 def and 12 speed timid

@wildmirror-28 And my lucario spread was 32 hp 22 def and 12 speed timid
rapidcipher-81

So literally 0 damage output

@happyknight-58 Sorry about that but this is my current Lucario Z team ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme…
happyknight-58 OP

Is there a way to fit indeedee in this team or is the team good as is

@happyknight-58 Is there a way to fit indeedee in this team or is the team good as is
rapidcipher-81

I think deedee hurts your pod mu and dropping rilla doesnt help that

rapidcipher-81

And doesnt help your yard mu

happyknight-58 OP

You think Indeedee hurts my team as a whole cus I only replaced Ninetales

@happyknight-58 You think Indeedee hurts my team as a whole cus I only replaced Ninetales
rapidcipher-81

For what

happyknight-58 OP

Female Indeedee

happyknight-58 OP

does it hurt my team or no

rapidcipher-81

Ye swap tails for what

happyknight-58 OP

Female Indeedee

happyknight-58 OP

Does putting Female Indeedee over Alolan Ninetales hurt my team in any sorta way

@happyknight-58 Female Indeedee
rapidcipher-81

Ye your selling doing tha

happyknight-58 OP

So it does hurt my team is that right

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