Mega Meganium Dual Weather Team Guide | Pokémon VGC

Summary

In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members are collaborating on a unique Mega Meganium dual weather team designed for ladder climbing. This discussion provides critical feedback on team synergy, the role of Perish Song, and speed control mechanics like Tailwind versus Choice Scarf. It serves as a valuable resource for players looking to refine their competitive builds before the new season begins.

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Don't have enough vp to train it in champions yet so here's the pokepaste. https://pokepast.es/27d29ce06972e556
My goal is to ladder climb at least to ultra ball 2 but preferably to master ball 4 when the season resets in a couple days. So far testing it on showdown I haven't run into much trouble, it seems pretty well balanced all around but I am also very low elo on the showdown ladder. So far what it struggles with is all going to be in theory as of now and I haven't thought of much, but I'm not good at estimating things like that. And this team was fully built by me, I did use a lot of the most common sets on a few mons but other than that this is entirely me.

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pearlcanyon-49 OP
@pearlcanyon-49 Don't have enough vp to train it in champions yet so here's the pokepaste. https://pokepast.es/27d2…
tidyheron-18

Are you asking if the team is good or what?

tidyheron-18

The Team seems like it wants too do a lot of things but dosint fully commit too one.

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@tidyheron-18 Are you asking if the team is good or what?
pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah and just for general revisions you might make

tidyheron-18

:thinking:

tidyheron-18

This Purly for Ladders?

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah, for ladder climbing when the season resets

@tidyheron-18 The Team seems like it wants too do a lot of things but dosint fully commit too one. ![image](https…
pearlcanyon-49 OP

Also to explain perish song it’s not necessary to pick up KOs but is more to force repositioning

tidyheron-18

That works if you have Incinaroar

tidyheron-18

Because now you also have to Swap

tidyheron-18

You dont really have much flex too be constantly swapping with this team

tidyheron-18

Like, You will put yourself on the back heal vs a team that has Regen Tox/Weather Setters/Intimidate Mons/ Fake out Pressure

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Why would I run choice scarf on basc? I’m almost always going to have either tailwind or rain up so choice scarf is actively harmful

tidyheron-18

No like

tidyheron-18

Im saying with Tailwind

tidyheron-18

That gives Choice Scarf Speed

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Oh

pearlcanyon-49 OP

It would be more than scarf no?

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Cus tailwind is 2x and scarf is 1.5

tidyheron-18

naw. Both are Double Unless im bugging

tidyheron-18

damn

tidyheron-18

it is 1.5

pearlcanyon-49 OP

I think you’re bugging

tidyheron-18

:thinking:

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah

tidyheron-18

Explains alot

pearlcanyon-49 OP

All choice items are 1.5

tidyheron-18

Time for me too Drop Choice Scarf Bas

tidyheron-18

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story

tidyheron-18

(jk)

tidyheron-18

Good Luck THo

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tidyheron-18

lots too fear

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pearlcanyon-49 OP

True

pearlcanyon-49 OP

I should have stuff for most of those other than meganium though

tidyheron-18

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tidyheron-18

Alot....

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Also would you say protect or synthesis is better on meganium?

tidyheron-18

With that many Weakness

pearlcanyon-49 OP

I think it’s probably about an even split

tidyheron-18

Protect %10000

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Really?

tidyheron-18

You Need Too Be Running protect Due too The High DMg Steel/ Poison Types

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Meganium is pretty bulky so other than poison it can generally take a hit

tidyheron-18

Your x4 Weak to poison

@tidyheron-18 You Need Too Be Running protect Due too The High DMg Steel/ Poison Types
pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah that’s true

@tidyheron-18 Your x4 Weak to poison
pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah, hence the other than poison

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Poison meganium cannot take

tidyheron-18

One of the most pop pokemon rn

tidyheron-18

Is Snesler

tidyheron-18

Both in Ladder AND in Regionals

pearlcanyon-49 OP

That’s true

tidyheron-18

ngl.

pearlcanyon-49 OP

So yeah protect is definitely more valuable

tidyheron-18

If you want too make a team with Megerna

tidyheron-18

Pick 1 Weather

tidyheron-18

And Build around it

tidyheron-18

Shes already a really shaky Mega too build around

tidyheron-18

& Ice/Water isint the Greatest Weather Mix unless ur running D-night or some off meta, meta counter

pearlcanyon-49 OP

True but this team is kind of an experiment more than anything

pearlcanyon-49 OP

I wanted to try meganium and dual weather and rain/snow seemed like it would benefit meganium the most

tidyheron-18

Not Really :thinking:

tidyheron-18

Rain Means Hurricane is %100 Acc

tidyheron-18

Snow means Blizzard is %100

tidyheron-18

And Charzard Weather ball in the snow is still Ice

tidyheron-18

:thinking:

pearlcanyon-49 OP

True but my thinking there is almost exclusively when hurricane or blizz is on a team there’s already rain or snow on that team too

tidyheron-18

I think Rain is Great with her tbh

tidyheron-18

Can you explain Snow?

quickjester-17

Snow just feels like you want pelipper, torkoal, or any other weather ball user to nuke mega

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Aurora veil mostly, I didn’t like sand because it would be chipping most of my other mons and would break whimsis sash and then sun doesn’t benefit anything on the team because meganium already has mega sol and its partners would generally prefer something other than sun

tidyheron-18

:thinking:

tidyheron-18

Grimsnarrl?

pearlcanyon-49 OP

What about it?

tidyheron-18

Screens + Parting Shot > A9

tidyheron-18

It lets you drop down the power of pokemon ur scare of going BOOM on ur Sol Plant

pearlcanyon-49 OP

True but I think whimsi is better overall because without this team doesn’t have a very good or reliable form of speed control

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Which it does need pretty badly

tidyheron-18

A9 = Alolan Nine

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Oh yeah

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Ehhh

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Idk

tidyheron-18

Is she there just for Veil?

pearlcanyon-49 OP

I think aurora veil is pretty valuable

@tidyheron-18 Is she there just for Veil?
pearlcanyon-49 OP

And damage

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah

pearlcanyon-49 OP

I guess grimm could be better

tidyheron-18

It gives you Weather War Pivot.

pearlcanyon-49 OP

True

tidyheron-18

And you could Swap Incinaroar for Sneasler then

tidyheron-18

For Fake out Speed + Covrage

pearlcanyon-49 OP

This team was also meant to be dual weather is the thing

tidyheron-18

Or keep Incin

tidyheron-18

I see

tidyheron-18

Welp

tidyheron-18

Just test it out for now

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah

tidyheron-18

BEst way to make a team is too build, then rebuild

pearlcanyon-49 OP

True

tidyheron-18

Wanna vc?

tidyheron-18

We can run some

pearlcanyon-49 OP

I’ll get everything in champions and then test it some

@tidyheron-18 Wanna vc?
pearlcanyon-49 OP

In a bit sure

tidyheron-18

Alr, Feel free to ping me when your ready

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Aight

tidyheron-18

We can run it against a mix of MEta and off teams

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Yeah

tidyheron-18

I have 16 ish teams we can test it on

pearlcanyon-49 OP

It’ll have to be on showdown though cus I don’t have the vp for all the training in champs

tidyheron-18

Thats fine

tidyheron-18

I have alot of them on Showdown anyways

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Aight

tidyheron-18

I think...

pearlcanyon-49 OP

Sounds good

tidyheron-18

:peace:

pearlcanyon-49 OP
pearlcanyon-49 OP

I can vc now

tidyheron-18

Mind if we do it in my server?

tidyheron-18

Or ykw

tidyheron-18

give me a sec

pearlcanyon-49 OP

aight

@pearlcanyon-49 aight
tidyheron-18

Where do you wanna call?

pearlcanyon-49 OP

anywhere is fine, do you just wanna go to dms or something?

tidyheron-18

sure

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