Mega Swampert Rain Team Guide | Pokémon VGC Strategy

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The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community dives into a deep strategy discussion regarding a Mega Swampert rain team. Members analyze optimal IV spreads for Archaludon, discuss the utility of High Horsepower versus Earthquake in doubles, and evaluate defensive builds for support Pokémon like Grimmsnarl. This collaborative breakdown provides essential insights for players looking to refine their competitive rain team compositions.

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Any advice is most welcomed! Especially on IV spread. Thinking of running a bulkier pelliper or floette, and a bit unsure on Archaludon's spread as well

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@ivorywalrus-81 Any advice is most welcomed! Especially on IV spread. Thinking of running a bulkier pelliper or flo…
ironpanther-10

pretty straight forwards. Use Highhorse Power

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Over earthquake?

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Or ice punch

ironpanther-10

yes, earthquake turns into a 75bp move in doubles

ivorywalrus-81 OP

But hits both targets

ironpanther-10

yeaa, but it can also hit your Archaludon for example. I know you can protect that turn, but that forces you to play in a awkward position, that you cant afford to be in sometimes

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Fair enough

ironpanther-10

the rest looks fine, only things i PREFER (not always better) is calm mind floette and spirit break grims

ironpanther-10

but i guess you are putting more bulk into grim

ironpanther-10

ah yes you are

ironpanther-10

i didnt see the ev spreads

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Yeahhh, bulky grimsnarl

ironpanther-10

is it surviving something specific with those spreads?

ivorywalrus-81 OP

I have

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Done absolutely no maths

ironpanther-10

nice

ivorywalrus-81 OP

I also haven't played this team yet

ironpanther-10

you could try to make it survive a iron head from mega metagross behind reflect

ironpanther-10

maybe it already does

ironpanther-10

let me check

ironpanther-10

as long as reflect is up it survives one iron head

ironpanther-10

what else could we calc for

ironpanther-10

make it rain

ironpanther-10

grims surviving

ironpanther-10

as long as he didnt click nasty plot

ivorywalrus-81 OP

With light screen?

ironpanther-10

i would use 112 speed on archaludon

@ivorywalrus-81 With light screen?
ironpanther-10

yes

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Okay

ivorywalrus-81 OP

I assume I probably should take that out of hp

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Unless full spa is overkill

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Changing the nature to timid by itself would increase it to 115 too

@ironpanther-10 i would use 112 speed on archaludon
ironpanther-10

i mean hes no real threat to archaludon himself, but youd outspeed him and any other pokemon as long as tailwind is active if you run a 112 speed archaludon

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ivorywalrus-81 OP

Nice

ivorywalrus-81 OP

So this?

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ivorywalrus-81 OP

Or do you have any advice for archaludon's bulk as well?

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Also tempted to make floette more bulky, with less speed

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Although maybe less spa is better since she does already deal a ton of damage

@ivorywalrus-81 So this? ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1518978499103293513/1518987127181017271/Sc…
ironpanther-10

yes

@ivorywalrus-81 Or do you have any advice for archaludon's bulk as well?
ironpanther-10

i think special bulk is nice for achaludon

ironpanther-10

but let me check

ironpanther-10

252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Stomping Tantrum vs. 148 HP / 0 Def Archaludon: 135-164 (73.3 - 89.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

ironpanther-10

you just survive one stomping tantrum from the most used garchomp set

ironpanther-10

but you might get hit with something else afterwards

ironpanther-10

so be careful when you play against garchomp and you have archaludon on the field

ivorywalrus-81 OP

Oof

ivorywalrus-81 OP

But I do survive it

ivorywalrus-81 OP

So thats smth

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