Pokémon VGC Team Building Tips for Beginners

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server provides a collaborative space for players to refine their competitive teams. This discussion highlights essential VGC strategies, including the use of Whimsicott for speed control and the synergy between Tyranitar and Excadrill. Members share expert advice on team composition, move sets, and top-tier recruits like Incineroar to help newcomers succeed in the competitive scene.

ironxenon-34 OP

Literally just started playing today, this is the team I've been running and the roster I've amassed. Anyone able to give any pointers for what I should run and what pokemon I should try to recruit?

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quickjewel-96
quickjewel-96

I also recommend using #channel

ironxenon-34 OP

Thanks friend

snowypanther-61

Hello there. I'd suggest whimsicott over skarmory to support your team more with speed control. I'm going based on ur current options rn, and if ur using ttar then excadrill is a staple. Replace Metagross in that scenario. More recruits would be helpful rn, and also replace high horsepower for something like low kick or ice punch for coverage

ironxenon-34 OP

I'll give that a shot, thanks

ironxenon-34 OP

Any advice for what to run on the whimsicott?

@ironxenon-34 Any advice for what to run on the whimsicott?
mellowquiver-61

Tailwind
Moonblast
Encore/some other status move
protect/ another status move

ironxenon-34 OP

What about taunt?

@ironxenon-34 What about taunt?
mellowquiver-61

sure you can run that

mellowquiver-61

but i dont see that on whims really often

ironxenon-34 OP

So what I'm getting is swap skarmory for whimsicott and Metagross for excadrill

@ironxenon-34 So what I'm getting is swap skarmory for whimsicott and Metagross for excadrill
mellowquiver-61

indeed

ironxenon-34 OP

Any other Pokemon I should look to recruit to improve the team at all?

@ironxenon-34 Any other Pokemon I should look to recruit to improve the team at all?
mellowquiver-61

incin is one
the guy fills the same role as rk9 on your team but better with fake out and more bulk

ironxenon-34 OP

Sounds about right

mellowquiver-61

why the heck do i think magic guard alakazam fits into the team

ironxenon-34 OP

I mean it might lol I'll see if I can get one

ironxenon-34 OP

Where would it fit

ironxenon-34 OP

Here's what it looks like now

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ironxenon-34 OP

Oh! And I also have just about every other Pokemon game, so what pokemon should I try to get a hold of that fit the doubles format well?

mellowquiver-61

https://pokepast.es/4e28fe38ab76a72f
we are doing random bullshi now

mellowquiver-61

zchomp can be replaced though.

@mellowquiver-61 https://pokepast.es/4e28fe38ab76a72f we are doing random bullshi now
mellowquiver-61

basically my take on your team if you want to see it

ironxenon-34 OP

Sick, thanks

ironxenon-34 OP

Super helpful actually lol

mellowquiver-61

aand i made another team with no speed control options

ironxenon-34 OP

:0

mellowquiver-61

oh yeah htr shuts the team down

ironxenon-34 OP

Really? Damn

ironxenon-34 OP

Even excadrill?

@ironxenon-34 Even excadrill?
mellowquiver-61

torkoal eruption:

ironxenon-34 OP

Oh no

ironxenon-34 OP

What would you suggest then?

mellowquiver-61

hol up

ironxenon-34 OP

Letting you cook

ironxenon-34 OP

I'm gonna have to replay Violet to get access to a lot of these dudes, im realizing

mellowquiver-61

the team also plays kinda well? into joe ugarte's sand team at louisville

mellowquiver-61

depends on the player ofc

@ironxenon-34 I'm gonna have to replay Violet to get access to a lot of these dudes, im realizing
mellowquiver-61

how to beat htr with the team according to a htr player

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mellowquiver-61

the "other" here is mirror matches into other sand teams with zchomp and rilla

ironxenon-34 OP

I assume htr is heatran

@ironxenon-34 I assume htr is heatran
mellowquiver-61

hard trick room

mellowquiver-61

teams that completely rely on trick room to work and have crazy dmg output

ironxenon-34 OP

Ahhh

ironxenon-34 OP

Gotcha, that's why I was confused

ironxenon-34 OP

So aim for what's in the link you sent, basically?

mellowquiver-61

yeah
i may have to figure out how to beat mirror matches later

ironxenon-34 OP

I appreciate the effort

ironxenon-34 OP

Turns out I have access to some

mellowquiver-61

oh yeah for the mirror matches
spam snarl with incin

mellowquiver-61

or pray that you dont get outsped and die miserably

ironxenon-34 OP

What's a good option til I get rillaboom? I have Venusaur if I should do a bulky grass

@ironxenon-34 What's a good option til I get rillaboom? I have Venusaur if I should do a bulky grass
mellowquiver-61

Barely any other mon fills the same role as rilla
They dont have priority and fake out and great offensive pressure at the same time

mellowquiver-61

But venu can be fine?

ironxenon-34 OP

It'll do for now

ironxenon-34 OP

I got a hold of both so I can make the full team, I'll let you know how it goes

ironxenon-34 OP

Any tips for using the team in general? Sorry for all the questions

mellowquiver-61

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmc-2699881848-jr7l0ybxp9i5mq1w8vxmb8g5crb97qqpw
I guess this is how the team is used
Maybe you can ask others about it though since im not that good

@ironxenon-34 Any tips for using the team in general? Sorry for all the questions
youngxenon-79

which team

youngxenon-79

i can give you pointers

@youngxenon-79 i can give you pointers
mellowquiver-61

https://pokepast.es/4e28fe38ab76a72f
Zchomp's earh power was changed to flamethrower for pod

mellowquiver-61
  • i made the team for this guy

youngxenon-79

what is the spread on rilla for

mellowquiver-61

Popped up in my head
Might just get it to live offensive peli hurricane though

@youngxenon-79 what is the spread on rilla for
mellowquiver-61

Rillaboom @ Miracle Seed
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 1 Atk / 20 Def / 13 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Grassy Glide
- Wood Hammer
- U-turn
A better spread i made a while ago

@youngxenon-79 what is the spread on rilla for
mellowquiver-61

Lives hurricane from modest pelipper

youngxenon-79

okk

@youngxenon-79 which team
ironxenon-34 OP

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snowypanther-61

Yeah, that looks good

snowypanther-61

Have u tested yet

snowypanther-61

Also u don't really have much support on incineroar

snowypanther-61

Try parting shot instead of snarl

ironxenon-34 OP

I might do that

ironxenon-34 OP

It's going good so far, I'm still learning the meta so I get caught out by certain things

ironxenon-34 OP

Though im realizing I don't seem to have a lot of answers for sneasler

ironxenon-34 OP

Maybe I can swap in gholdengo over sylv?

mellowquiver-61

hmmm

mellowquiver-61

couldnt you just fake out and high horsepower it with drill

ironxenon-34 OP

I could but they often swap into something like indeedee or they hit me with their own fake out, may be a skill issue

mellowquiver-61

might have to see it myself

ironxenon-34 OP

I could see about sharing replays maybe

mellowquiver-61

aight

@ironxenon-34 Maybe I can swap in gholdengo over sylv?
fleetvalley-28

it learns psyquick, you could use it, or have Garchomp deal with it with earth power

@fleetvalley-28 it learns psyquick, you could use it, or have Garchomp deal with it with earth power
mellowquiver-61

the chomp runs flamethrower now

mellowquiver-61

for pod

fleetvalley-28

optional, depending o their needs

fleetvalley-28

Incin 1 shots it anyways

@fleetvalley-28 Incin 1 shots it anyways
mellowquiver-61

cant depend on one counter

mellowquiver-61

oh yeah
intim cycle with incin

@mellowquiver-61 cant depend on one counter
fleetvalley-28

I guess, but sometimes it's what it's

fleetvalley-28

Or a double up from mystic fire could delete it

fleetvalley-28

since it almos 1 shots

mellowquiver-61

an idea

ironxenon-34 OP

So swap in earth power over flamethrower?

@ironxenon-34 So swap in earth power over flamethrower?
mellowquiver-61

Earth power in place of power gem maybe

ironxenon-34 OP

How do I share replays

ironxenon-34 OP

Also I gave my gholdengo away 😭

@ironxenon-34 How do I share replays
mellowquiver-61

You play on showdown or some

ironxenon-34 OP

Ahh

ironxenon-34 OP

I don't but I could

ironxenon-34 OP

https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6a9c5234a4272c53be6480bf/player/luca/teamlist I found this sample team that's kind of similar to mine, could this work?

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