Building the Ultimate Perish Rain Team | Pokémon VGC Guide

Summary

In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members are collaborating to perfect a Perish Rain team. The discussion covers essential tactical adjustments, including optimizing Gengar for rain, selecting the right Incineroar moveset, and addressing grass-type coverage. This thread provides valuable insights for competitive players looking to refine their team composition and strategy for upcoming VGC tournaments.

clevertemple-45 OP

I have perfected my first 5 Pokémon but I have been struggling on figuring out who to use as my last mon and I would love ur help

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ivoryunicorn-80

You don’t have coverage for grass

ivoryunicorn-80

But there is not a grass type sweeper I think

ivoryunicorn-80

Like the closest is viloplume

quietcomet-33

ice puch instead of ice beam

quietcomet-33

swampert is a physical attacker so ice beam is ignoring that stat as it is a special attack

@ivoryunicorn-80 But there is not a grass type sweeper I think
quietcomet-33

the only grass sweeper that is a threat is mostly just meowscarada

@quietcomet-33 the only grass sweeper that is a threat is mostly just meowscarada
ivoryunicorn-80

Nope

ivoryunicorn-80

Tsareena better

ivoryunicorn-80

And mega seceptile is like very niche

clevertemple-45 OP

Thx y’all

clevertemple-45 OP
ivoryunicorn-80

If you are facing a grass type

ivoryunicorn-80

Use peli swapert lees

ivoryunicorn-80

And make a hurracain ice punch mindgame

clevertemple-45 OP

K

sageumber-25

This is sick, since I also love to run Gengar

sageumber-25

One funny thing you can do to teach gengar thunder

sageumber-25

Since its max accuracy in rain

sageumber-25

But me personally I don’t think perish is worth going for, I just do icy wind for speed control, and it works well if you have a good tailwind setter

sageumber-25

Because two other moms already know perish song, Gengar doesn’t really need it now, since he is still a great glass cannon without it

sageumber-25

I deadass might need to play this team it looks fun

sageumber-25

Also change primerina’s ability to liquid voice

sageumber-25

If your running hyper voice

clevertemple-45 OP

K

clevertemple-45 OP

Should I switch grimsnarl out for incin ?

merrykitten-85

Incin is rising in useage

merrykitten-85

Unless it’s a rain team

merrykitten-85

(Yes)

clevertemple-45 OP

K

clevertemple-45 OP

Fake out
Flare blitz
Parthing Shot
Protect

clevertemple-45 OP

?

merrykitten-85

No protect

Throat chop is the common pick on a defensive incin

clevertemple-45 OP

K

clevertemple-45 OP

This is the team so far

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@clevertemple-45 This is the team so far ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1524448025395724458/1524762…
merrykitten-85

can you give this team a review and suggest some upgrades please 🙏

cleverinbox-49

:Politoed_By_Sifyro: rain

cleverinbox-49

Whats the last mon tho? Also I do not think incin should rly have flareblitz on a rain/perish team

cleverinbox-49

You could use something like taunt to stop the ocassional roar user

cleverinbox-49

Or protect

@cleverinbox-49 Whats the last mon tho? Also I do not think incin should rly have flareblitz on a rain/perish team
clevertemple-45 OP

Last mons prim

@cleverinbox-49 You could use something like taunt to stop the ocassional roar user
clevertemple-45 OP

K

clevertemple-45 OP

So fake out part, throat, and taunt ?

cleverinbox-49

I mean you can also use protect, depends on how you like to use incin

clevertemple-45 OP

Eh but protect might be better for stalling

@cleverinbox-49 I mean you can also use protect, depends on how you like to use incin
clevertemple-45 OP

Yeha ima use protect

ivoryunicorn-80

Evssss

ivoryunicorn-80

Protect is better for perish

ivoryunicorn-80

Fake ,protect , throat and parting

ivoryunicorn-80

I will recommend you sinestcha and not prim

ivoryunicorn-80

Sinestcha is very good for the perish mode and the archaludon one

@ivoryunicorn-80 Sinestcha is very good for the perish mode and the archaludon one
coralquiver-12

check dms

@clevertemple-45 Should I switch grimsnarl out for incin ?
sageumber-25

Incin actually doesn’t do bad on rain teams, he isn’t really bothered by the rain lowering fire type moves, the only thing that effects him is that it makes him more vulnerable to opposing water types, which honestly isn’t that bad for him since he already has a pretty good amount of bulk. But it’s up to you to do grimmsnarl or incin

sageumber-25

Also, put icy wind on Gengar instead of perish. The speed control is much more useful, since you already have other perish mobs

@sageumber-25 Also, put icy wind on Gengar instead of perish. The speed control is much more useful, since you al…
ivoryunicorn-80

But this is a perish team boy

@ivoryunicorn-80 I will recommend you sinestcha and not prim
sageumber-25

I agree, it is very good for archaludon

@ivoryunicorn-80 But this is a perish team boy
sageumber-25

Yes I get that but it’s just much better for it

sageumber-25

It’s optional though

@sageumber-25 I agree, it is very good for archaludon
ivoryunicorn-80

And it can survive hit like earthquakes that m gengar can’t

@sageumber-25 Yes I get that but it’s just much better for it
ivoryunicorn-80

Bro is like eating a sandwich without bread

@ivoryunicorn-80 Bro is like eating a sandwich without bread
sageumber-25

True

sageumber-25

It’s more fun with perish on Gengar

sageumber-25

After all I’d know since he’s my favorite mon to use

sageumber-25

It’s also hella funny

ivoryunicorn-80

could you send the updated paste with all the new things

@ivoryunicorn-80 could you send the updated paste with all the new things
clevertemple-45 OP

Sure give me a sec

sageumber-25

I’m probably gonna tinker with this team, since I’ve been testing it and it’s been super fun. But I’ll see if I can find anything that could improve it

sageumber-25

I’ll probably try out the sinischa instead of prim

ivoryunicorn-80

Yeah you just have a lot of water damage

sageumber-25

Something funny you could do is get a water absorb mon on the team

sageumber-25

Since prim gets water type perish song

ivoryunicorn-80

Nahh

ivoryunicorn-80

Maybe change arch for kommo

@ivoryunicorn-80 Maybe change arch for kommo
sageumber-25

Ehhhh

ivoryunicorn-80

Sound proof

@ivoryunicorn-80 Sound proof
sageumber-25

Oh…

clevertemple-45 OP

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sageumber-25

Hollup that’s cheeky af

@sageumber-25 Hollup that’s cheeky af
ivoryunicorn-80

He is a popular perish Mon

@clevertemple-45 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1524448025395724458/1524828354820309072/IMG_2736.pn…
ivoryunicorn-80

Throat

sageumber-25

Wanna talk about this in vc?

ivoryunicorn-80

Ok I will make the evs

ivoryunicorn-80

Cya

@sageumber-25 Wanna talk about this in vc?
clevertemple-45 OP

I don’t have a mic sadly

sageumber-25

Aight

clevertemple-45 OP

Oh yeah idk why politoad’s seconed move should

clevertemple-45 OP

Be

clevertemple-45 OP

Maybe rain dance for setting up rain when I can’t switch it out and back it

clevertemple-45 OP

Icy wind to slow down fast mobs

clevertemple-45 OP

Yeah idk

sageumber-25

Either or is good

sageumber-25

Although me personally I would do rain dance so you can not worry about having to swap him out and back in to set rain back up

clevertemple-45 OP

Yeah probably

sageumber-25

And also for sinischa, because it’s two main item options are taken by politoad and incin give it kasib berry

sageumber-25

If your gonna run it

ivoryunicorn-80

https://pokepast.es/e6597eda2555fc17

ivoryunicorn-80

if you want to make some small changes

ivoryunicorn-80

there it is the team

ivoryunicorn-80
@ivoryunicorn-80 https://pokepast.es/e6597eda2555fc17
clevertemple-45 OP

Lemme see

clevertemple-45 OP

It’s pretty cool

clevertemple-45 OP

Lemme try it out in Pokémon showdown

ivoryunicorn-80

Really worked hard on thge evs

ivoryunicorn-80

and i think the dark type berry is better because now cringe gambit is so popular

quietcomet-33

damp rock?

sageumber-25

I was thinking of giving politoed encore to deal with tailwind setters like aerydactly, whimsicott, pelliper, etc

sageumber-25

But it was just a thought

sageumber-25

Idk if it would be any good

@ivoryunicorn-80 and i think the dark type berry is better because now cringe gambit is so popular
sageumber-25

It also helps with matchups like incin, t-tar, and a few others

sageumber-25

But I’m sticking to the ghost type berry to deal with basculegion, since it’s oroblamatic for the team to deal with, since it isn’t affected by shadow tag, benefits from rain, and also is just hard to kill if archaludon or Gengar aren’t present.

sageumber-25

Idk I’ve just had a better time using the ghost type berry

sageumber-25

But it’s up to you

sageumber-25

Either is good

clevertemple-45 OP

Yeah basc is problematic

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