Optimize Your Rain Team: VGC Strategy & Build Advice

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server hosts an in-depth discussion on refining competitive Rain teams. Members analyze effective counters for Staraptor and Charizard Y, debating the utility of Gholdengo, Grimmsnarl, and Rotom-Wash. This thread provides valuable insights into meta-game adjustments, weather control, and team synergy for trainers looking to improve their performance in Master Ball tier battles.

jollyanchor-20 OP

I’d like some suggestions on how to improve my Golden Rain team. I struggle with Staraptor a bit which is why I put in Gholdengo and funny enough I struggle with Zard Y if I lose the weather war.

Some things I’ve played with - Thunder or Power Gem on Gholdengo. I’ve tried Metagross, Basc, and Scizor instead of Gholdengo he just seems to be the best addition specifically for Staraptor and Fairies/Ice.

Tsareena is here for FO abusers and taunt for TR but I’m noticing in MB2 that I don’t see TR nearly as much. Maybe that’s a spot I could switch out.

Any other suggestions? This has been by far my best performing team and one that I feel comfortable with.

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jollyanchor-20 OP
quickjewel-96

So the one thing I just don't feel fits very well hre is Incineroar. Personally I would run grimmsnarl with spirit break screens and parting shot. Spirit break is super strong into staraptor because it only lowers sp atk which staraptor cannot utilize contrary for. Screens are always great and parting shot is very good for charizard

quickjewel-96

make it bulky, don't bother with offenses at all

quickjewel-96

You are super susceptible to sun here so maybe arch is better served as something like choice scarf rotom wash. You lose a bunch of bulk but you also gain advantages in speed when you cannot reliably set tailwind

quickjewel-96

You also get speed control with a high speed electroweb

jollyanchor-20 OP

Yeah I originally had Grimm but just found Incin a little more valuable with FO, Intimidate, and non priority parting shot. I deff don’t mind the Rotom Wash call. That could be interesting.

jollyanchor-20 OP

What do you think about Sableye with RD, screens, and maybe FO, Wisp, or Foul Play?

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