Pokémon VGC Team Building Help: Countering Indeedee & Rillab

Summary

This announcement on the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server features a community discussion on optimizing competitive teams for the current season. The post focuses on strategies to counter common threats like Indeedee and Rillaboom, including advice on team composition and potential roster changes. It serves as a helpful resource for players looking to improve their VGC performance through collaborative team building and tactical feedback.

eagercipher-31 OP

i carried over my m-b team to the new season and uh it's not really going to plan, I got put on fraudwatch deluxe today I was losing so much

indeedee especially is kicking my ass, but I also got dumped by rillaboom occasionally and also once by mega salamence

attached is my team and all the mons I have

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eagercipher-31 OP

a few quick answers:
- no, mega floette isn't an option
- I have a crapton of recruit tickets so I can gamble for new stuff

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also do ping me if you answer so I check this quicker

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my toxapex does have wide guard if that helps

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I do think adding Rillaboom or making a new team with it would be very good as psychic terrain especially is proving trouble

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I'm open to a whole new team btw not just tinkering

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and no pokémon is sacred btw blaziken is my man but I'm willing to drop it

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team help - indeedee and thr monkey are kicking my ass

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team help - indeedee and the monkey are kicking my ass

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my updated box and latest recruit pull

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royalstream-47

You could replace tsarena with rilla

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You could remove earthquake from Chomp and use protec

royalstream-47

Given the number of rillaboms in the ladder, I don't see using earthquake as a viable option

eagercipher-31 OP

oh shit I just realised I sent my other team

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Ae

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😆

eagercipher-31 OP

help with this one is appreciated too

eagercipher-31 OP

it was very good for me for a while

royalstream-47

Gambit is pretty solid (but not against Rilla)

eagercipher-31 OP

ok lemme clear the confusion that's on me

the team I'm mainly using right now

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royalstream-47

With the number of mon using Intimidate, there couldn't be a better time to use a mons with Competitive or Defiant

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the other main team I have which is the one I accidentally attached to the thread post

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royalstream-47

How are you going to beat an annihilape with Gambit? 🫂

royalstream-47

It is neutral

royalstream-47

Not super effective

@eagercipher-31 ok lemme clear the confusion that's on me *the team I'm mainly using right now* ![image](https://cd…
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gambit helps with indeedee but I need to remember NOT to use sucker punch

royalstream-47

Maybe a +2 I don't think he'll get the kill in base

eagercipher-31 OP

why?

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because of TR?

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ooooooh ok

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right yeah

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ic

@eagercipher-31 ok lemme clear the confusion that's on me *the team I'm mainly using right now* ![image](https://cd…
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and do I swap anyone on my team?

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again nothing and no one is sacred

@eagercipher-31 my updated box and latest recruit pull ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/154760966154…
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to help

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the bottom row of the box is sylveon, whimiscott, aggron, and ttar

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given it's a physical set I presume fire punch right?

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it does

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ooooooh

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didn't know that

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sure!

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only took me 2 games instead of 800 to win today with your team 🔥🔥🔥

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eagercipher-31 OP

it was a team with sableye, farigiraf, oranguru, and rampardos

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I did get pretty lucky with the close combat roll (I've never seen it do 66% to the giraffe before) but even with oranguru managing to get trick room up I managed to get the W

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and admittedly my opponent misplayed as they encore'd delphox into heatwave...

...which was the move I was always going to use anyways to try and clear the trick room setter

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and also used mean look on delphox (did nothing effectively) and kingambit (did LITERALLY nothing?

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I DID IT I BEAT A TEAM WITH INDEEDEE IN IT

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eagercipher-31 OP

turns out the trick is to just use kowtow cleave

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...tbf the opponent forgot about how psychic terrain blocks priority moves on BOTH sides (they tried to fake out my gambit) so that helped but WE TAKE THOSEEEEE

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