Pokémon VGC Team Building: Maushold & Whimsicott Strategy
Summary
This discussion in Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments focuses on optimizing competitive VGC team compositions. Members analyze the utility of Maushold versus Whimsicott, debating the effectiveness of moves like Super Fang and Follow Me. The thread also covers strategic item choices for Incineroar and Kingambit, providing valuable insights for players looking to refine their competitive builds and counter common meta threats.
Like do I use Chople berry for maushold, do i change out raichu y for another mega and moveset for whimsi
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idrk if i should keep whimsi too, since i mostly bring maushold and it works much better for me
The thing about whimsi is that it can use charm before thanks to the prankster ability
i end up using maushold mostly cus of super fang though
if i’m like unsure if it’ll kill ill just use super fang just to make sure
I would probably give it follow me as its great to have a redirection mon with Raptor
my friend told me to replace follow me with super fang and keep taunt to stop like stall teams
or setup
i originally had both
I mean both super fang is good and follow me
yea
Taunt yea it stops psychic terrain teams
in this game too, if i had brought whimsicott i think i would’ve lost
i think my last 2-3 games i brought maushold too
Also I think its good to swap darkest lariat for throat chop on incin so you can stop Garde from ever hitting incin and stoping Mences hyper voice spam which is super effective
okay
Against Whims and Raptor
i’ll ask my friend to battle me with gardevoir team so i can try that out
Sounds good
is everything else good? like the held items and such
kinda just asked google for everything
Yea its good tho if you think you need more damage on kingambit just swap black glasses to life orb
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i also have to remember to swap it’s ability
Why?
i have it on defiant and i only ever bring it in end game
cus i have staraptor for early
i don’t see people bringing like any intimidate mons out early cus then my staraptor usually just destroys them
Yea defiant is good
They will try and slow you down so uts better to keep it
alr
also, what raichu ability do i use?
lightning rod?
lightning rod
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dunno if im overthinking but i just changed maushold from charm to baby doll eyes for +1 prio
I mean you got pransketr with charm
yeah
well ill just bring whims if i can
my whimsicott got bullied lol
immediate fake out + 1 shotted by charizard
Which matchup?
Damn
shouldn't have brought endeavor
💀
I mean Yaichu is much better into ZardY
i got fried
lmao
How tho
i kinda forgot defiant only works when your opponent lowers the stats
and charmed my own kingambit
Welp that's one of the treats of learning the game
yeah
i could've won cus my throat chop critted his garde
and he was down to 2
Oh damn
You could have just tailwind and spam Moonblast
yeah
i also keep forgetting psychic terrain blocks prio
Yea that why Whimsi fell off
but his indeedee died early cus of follow me
couldve won the end
It was expected
im gonna play ladder more
Lemme know how is it going
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Staraptor @ Staraptite
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Brave Bird
- Tailwind
- Protect
Rillaboom @ Miracle Seed
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Adamant Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Grassy Glide
- High Horsepower
- Fake Out
Primarina @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 50
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Moonblast
- Calm Mind
- Protect
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Modest Nature
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Protect
Raichu @ Raichunite Y
Ability: Lightning Rod
Level: 50
Timid Nature
- Zap Cannon
- Focus Blast
- Fake Out
- Protect
Arcanine-Hisui @ Focus Sash
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 50
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Head Smash
- Extreme Speed
- Protect
Here
thx
i need to get 3 mons out of all of them 
Which ones
harcanine rilla and primarina
gotta get more vp
Good luck in that
need rillaboom lmao
I think I got one
Just gimme 15min
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Gimme your friend code
one sec im in a ranked match rn
Ye it's fine
playing singles because i need vp 😭
Damnnnn
and also just to grind grass tickets, i spent like 600 time tickets for nothing 
How tho
i just got a bunch of mons that i don't really know how to use
i have other teams but i don't win as much with them so i just don't play it
Like which ones
i had like a trick room team with torkoal
Of course
but then i dropped from ub2 to like bottom of ub4 and i was like "im not playing this ever again"
is it this
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Do you have pokemon home?
yeah
That friend code so I can trade you a rillaboom
oh oke
ZWDVSYVDYMME
Sent
accepted
in friend trade
i kinda hve 0 mons in there 💀
How come
i only have pokemon champions lmao
and pokemon go
Any mon is fine
there's like a charmander and pikachu sitting there lol
Yea that's fine i got shiny rilla in game so I don't need it anymore
oh lol
So yea
i sent a trade
is it possible to get other pokemon games on like pc
cus i don't have a switch lol
Yea there is no way unfortunately
prolly will have to wait until december to buy a switch at least
Why until than?
i have exams coming up in november, prolly won't be on to play at all
I got exams this weekend and after that I'm free for some time
Tho I will have to first successfully enroll in second year
im procrastinating this entire week
I have to prep 2 subjects for Sunday
what subjects?
language?
Math and programming language
ohh
im planning to take cs next year
I started this year tho I fumbled chasing math 1 for so long and I failed and failed
And now I gotta scramble
i have a problem with time management lmao
half the time i say im going to study just ends up with a whole lot of nothing done
Yea I get it last few days I feel so burnt out that its comendable
I just studied and studied
Havent seen my girlfriend in a month because of it
i usually just pull all nighters to study 
ill just sit there for like 5-6 hrs and study without break
im still single
I cant do that I know less when I do it
Dont worry there will be someone for you
i just sit there with like a podcast playing in the background, haven't failed a test with this strategy yet
You in highschool?
taking foundation in science, basically a repeat of high school for 1yr
So I think we are the same age than?
im 18
(technically 17 cus my birthday hasnt passed yet)
Ohh you are abit younger than me
ur 19?
20
Turned this year
i just remembered i had a hisuian arcanine in my recruit like yesterday but i took like either shiny bascu or ninetails over it
ohh
Absolutely valid
First year college finishing in 7 days xD
mine finishes next year i started in like june
and itll end next year june
Yea that makes sense
Mine started november and its gonna finish in ocober
oh i see
also do i run the bottom one
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think i have all of them built on the bottom
Whichever is better
for you imo
imma go try the bottom rq
Sure
ok i have the second team built
time for more ranked
hopefully i don't get destroyed by psyspam again
You got Gambit and Garchomp for that
most of the time i lose is like cus of inexperience prolly
i don't face some pokemon much so idrk what they will do
Like which ones
like for example i faced some runerigus team and i had no idea what it did then two of my pokemon got body pressed to death lmao
Yes he is very off meta
I know what most of the mons do as I tried to make many work
only been playing champions for like a month, still got no idea 💀
Played on showdown for almost two years and now since mobile release
Now I'm saving for switch 2
oh lol
also holy milotic is so annoying for my opponent
two turns of them double focusing my milotic and it's still alive
and now theyre both asleep
Milo is so good
my opponent went afk 💀
Rage quit wow
nvm he sent inteleon out
Its bot playing now
yep
4 winstreak
milotic just hard carrying
Lets goooo
friend just got back on, now gonna 1v1 hiim lmao
Good luckk
prolly will need a lot of it
Why so
hes like way better than me lol
So what?
nvm my garchomp is like dying next turn lol
i should've brought milotic in earlier
milotic survived on 2
what do i even lead with the team
bottom one
i just lead indeedee and someone
idrk what im supposed to do lmao
Not sure tho the most I've seen is whims Raptor
uhh i kinda realize why the first team on the list has gholdengo
and rilla
perish trap 
Oh damn
