Rampardos Trick Room Tech & Caly Suggestions

Summary

This Pokémon Champions forum discussion centers on building a competitive team, specifically exploring the viability of using Rampardos with the Room Service item under Trick Room conditions. Key points of the conversation involve suggestions for improving the team's structure, such as incorporating Protect on Calyrex-Ice and discussing redirection strategies using Indeedee. The participants debate move choices, particularly whether to keep Trick Room on multiple Pokémon or substitute it for off...

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Wait rapados can work really well with room service, too bad it cant take advantage of sheer force life orb.

sunnyquiver-34 OP

rampados might work?

sunnyquiver-34 OP

https://pokepast.es/41a685742300a8b8

sunnyquiver-34 OP

It outspeeds calyrex ice outside of trick room and room service allows it to outspeed inside trick room too, i may be onto something like with psyduck

coralquiver-12

I’d suggest utilizing protect more, and giving Indee Tera Grass to redirect spores for ur hitters. I also suggest giving Caly-I protect.

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I have a bad habit never managing to fit protect lol. I ran protect for a while but never really worked out on Caly I.

sunnyquiver-34 OP

All of Caly I's moves stop something impotant that threaten it otherwise

coralquiver-12

i mean that’s completely fine

coralquiver-12

the only problem is, you have trick room on 3 mons, and no redirection for Caly to set it up himself

coralquiver-12

Other than indee who also has TRA

coralquiver-12

i do like ur Ram

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I have indeene with follow me tho, plus a hatterene and indeene lead blocking fake out and taunt.

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I never like running pure meta, always try to fit in weird pokemon and it works a lot

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Even when i do run meta pokemon, I like running weird sets like:
Landorus @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Sheer Force
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fissure
- Sludge Wave
- Protect
- Earth Power

coralquiver-12

Yeah, but why waste an entire move slot on arguably your hardest hitter when you already have enough mons to setup TR. Yk?

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I'll try switching TR for dazzling gleam for a few matches and see how it feels

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Unless you suggest another move?

coralquiver-12

dazzling is a special atk….

coralquiver-12

I do…

coralquiver-12

protect

coralquiver-12

And let me tell you why

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Oooh your talking about caly

coralquiver-12

If you Follow Me with indee any attacks will 100% hit indee

sunnyquiver-34 OP

i was talking about hatterente lol

coralquiver-12

if you protect with Caly and TR with your chance at not taking damage with indee increases

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I get what your going at, but on caly it just doesnt feel right? idk how to explain it

coralquiver-12

Or, you can trade out TR on indee for protect and TR with caly

coralquiver-12

You’d definitely survive longer

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Ill try it a bit, see how it feels

sunnyquiver-34 OP

i'll run 5 matches and decide

coralquiver-12

Tornadus @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 92 Def / 60 SpA / 100 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Tailwind
- Bleakwind Storm
- Knock Off
- Foul Play

Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Encore
- Tailwind
- Energy Ball
- Helping Hand

Kyogre @ Assault Vest
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 60 HP / 252 Def / 196 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Water Spout
- Chilling Water
- Ancient Power
- Thunder

Flutter Mane @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Shadow Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Power Gem

Calyrex-Shadow @ Life Orb
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Astral Barrage
- Protect
- Expanding Force
- Calm Mind

Indeedee-F @ Psychic Seed
Ability: Psychic Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Def / 76 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Follow Me
- Helping Hand
- Protect
- Imprison

coralquiver-12

this is the team i ran for Reg I in the ladder this past week

coralquiver-12

i got up to 1400 Elo with maybe 4 loses

coralquiver-12

Arec you in a certain reg?

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I decided i dont want protect, because it feels good, but i dont like being put in front of mirdon when i cant follow me trick room with caly

coralquiver-12

^

sunnyquiver-34 OP

as long as it allows 2 resticteds, i practice on ubers lol

coralquiver-12

I understand what you’re talking about.

coralquiver-12

But getting hit twice when you could have a chance at getting hit once is better

coralquiver-12

Besides, what if the terrian gets changed and Caly gets FO

sunnyquiver-34 OP

then just follow me?

sunnyquiver-34 OP

unless they plan to switch in something like rillabom and fake out dispite psychic terain being up, its not something that really happens

coralquiver-12

the problem with Follow Me is that it doesn’t work with Multi Target Attacks, and if they double into Caly you can protect to negate all the dmg

fleetkernel-50

Rampardos is really cool . He seems like a cool iron ball Mon with his awkward speed stat

Huge attack stat

They did him dirty like my boy Tyrantrum . They both need megas

sunnyquiver-34 OP

it halso gets so much coverage, but everything else sucks

fleetkernel-50

Yeah I’ve tried him and genuinely wish he was better . Needs a mega

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Hes probably the cover image for raw power isnt everything

sunnyquiver-34 OP

hes tied for 9th highest attack

sunnyquiver-34 OP

of all time (Including megas and alternate forms like ultra necrozma)

fleetkernel-50

Isn’t that wild ! I think iron ball is his most playable item haha

Tyrantrum doesn’t even have a crazy attack stat

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I feel like room service is better because it can outspeed caly ice outside of trick room and in trick room too

sunnyquiver-34 OP

2 fire punches on it's attack can go a long way

fleetkernel-50

You could be right !
I’ve seen some strange interactions with room service

Like sometimes it didn’t go off and I don’t know why

fleetkernel-50

It torments me till today

fleetkernel-50

https://tenor.com/view/contact-juggling-training-steel-balls-gif-7618612

sunnyquiver-34 OP

It's really sad it has such akward speed it cant run the item it dreams of

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Life orb sheer foce would have been terrifying

fleetkernel-50

He deserves a mega

I remember people trying to use scarf on him too.

fleetkernel-50

But every team has a scarf Mon now

fleetkernel-50

And rampardos won’t be the fastest

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I've tried scarf, aand it's speed still kinda sucks

sunnyquiver-34 OP

you wont outspeed much

fleetkernel-50

Yep. I can’t even think of a way to proper run him
Was going to say sableye but the support Mon might ohko him if they hit him hard enough

fleetkernel-50

Like you can only stop one mon and ramparodos could die to anything

fleetkernel-50

Even a foul play

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Especially a foul play lol

fleetkernel-50

Goodra rampardos and Tyrantrum all need a mega ev

fleetkernel-50

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sunnyquiver-34 OP

Hey, at least goodra got a regional form

fleetkernel-50

That’s true !

fleetkernel-50

It’s a tanky thing

sunnyquiver-34 OP

the only one who got nothing was dragapult but erm i dont think it needs buffs

fleetkernel-50

I like dragapult
Need to get one and move it to home

sunnyquiver-34 OP

there are some pokemon that I loved until fighting them competitivly that i now hate

fleetkernel-50

Haha hmmmm archuludon I find annoying

sunnyquiver-34 OP

Its so hard to beat dragapult on some teams I use so I run foul play electrode

fleetkernel-50

Smart
Pretty cool utility mon with electro web too

fleetkernel-50

Things like fluttermane is why he isn’t used

sunnyquiver-34 OP

It is quite annoying when i run teams with like 1 special attacker lol

fleetkernel-50

Some dude won something recently with a team of 6 attackers

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I mean other than regieleki hes the fastest thing around

sunnyquiver-34 OP

I swear he had to only be fighting blisseys or something

fleetkernel-50

Yep! Can’t remember who it was but someone was saying how regieleki made Jolteon useless haha
Same Happned to electrode but seems he atleast got a huge move pool

fleetkernel-50

Regieleki is very limited to like hyper beam and acient power haha

sunnyquiver-34 OP

hey, it still gets used on my eeveelution only team

sunnyquiver-34 OP

quick feet is pretty good

sunnyquiver-34 OP

and tera blast was it's saving factor

fleetkernel-50

Be nice if all the eevees get mega evs

fleetkernel-50

They’re all visually pleasing mons

sunnyquiver-34 OP

They all are, especially leafeon, 1 of the only 2 that didnt make the team

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