Rate My M Venusaur VGC Team

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On Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement requests feedback for a bulky-offense M Venusaur team. The post explains double pivot strategy, Giga Drain recovery, a Farigiraf Trick Room option, and TTar as a special wall check, asking for matchup improvements and optimization tips.

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Is there anything I could improve? M Venusaur is such a good pokemon right now, and i have found success with this team in particular.
Anything that is bad?

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Bulky Offense team that tries to get into the best position possible at all times, hence the double pivot. My idea is that if that M Venusaur is very good at getting positive trades of damage due to its huge bulk + Giga Drasin recovery. In case i find a matchup that punishes me for going second (like rock slide spam), i go with Farigiraf in order to setup Trick Room, or in matchups with a ton of priority. Most games are Incineroar + Another mon, usually M Venusaur or Farig. I cant emphasize enough how much pivot this teams allows for, and how much impact it gains

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when i first tried Ttar, i used a diff team, and a lot of Low Kick Gambit and Low Kick Ttar were running aroung. It also lets u survive Kommo-o Aura Sphere in the sand

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i know it doesnt let u survive Sneasler CC tho

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it survives even without berry

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berry allows u to receive two Aura Spheres from Arch if its modest 17 SPs

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so like 178 SpA mons

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its mostly the sand that allows it

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ttar is here bc its a special wall (sort of) and also bc its good into flying / psychic types

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that are usually bad into Venusaur

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ok

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most of thems go for a stat bump, garchomp, saur, rotom-W etc

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Venusaur can take a jolly aerodactyl Dual WWingbeat, and Non Modest delphox psychic

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Garchomp outspeed M Aerodactyl after 1 scale shot

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Incineroar takes a bunch of hits from most top 10 mons, garchomp and floette specially

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Ttar had to take an attack from floette, its calced for that

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i dont remember all of them

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but the general idea of what i did i do have

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also incin can kill frail M Gengar and M Froslass w Flare Blitz / DL

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incin also outspeeds -Speed sinistcha

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and farig always koed sneasler w psychic even if bulky as far as i remember, while taking on a kingambit attack and M Floette

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Ttar takes two/three HV depending on the Sylveon, Venusaur Walls it, the rest dont like it

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garchomp specially

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but Rotom-W can also take 2 bc of Sitrus

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Incin doesnt enjoy it cause of lack of recovery

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oh yeah hold on

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okay Ttar can die by Hyper Beam, its a 62,3% of OHKOing

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rotom-W can die 37.5% of the time

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hyper beam is bad yeah

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Venusaur still walls it

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and 2HKOs it

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Incin can take one HYper Beam

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59% of 3HKOing

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w HV

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Incin aint that bad into Sylveon considering the extra Speed allows me to Parting shot and nerf it

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and flare blitz doing a 2HKO as far as im aware (idk how physically bulky sylveon sets are)

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Cybertron when i find u

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my gameplan is Garchomp + Venusaur and then double up into it, doing damage on both sides, so that it cant wall off all the damage with one screen

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i have a friend that played a ton of sableye and showed me how hard i would lose if i dont remove it fast

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I would love to punch sableye irl

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such an annoying mon

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true

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and it will encore u back

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oh yeah

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farigiraf is somewhat of a check to it

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due to armor tail

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it cant quash thru

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True

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that why its a somewhat

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it allows u to play safer into it without fearing encore

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or disable

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or whatever bs it has

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thx!

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Shinka what happened to your name

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It's almost like the language changed

royalcloud-73

Oh that kanji means circus dog

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Thank God I have been using Duolingo long enough to know if I think it's derogatory im reading it right

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And has amazing nicks

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thx a lot

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and yeah the nicknames are indeed songs although i did change some

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like Venusaur was once "Green Day" and Farigiraf used to be a Corviknight called "Black Betty"

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im still figuring out another name that the garchomp could have

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cause his nickname isnt the full song name

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After playing for a while, i think Ttar could be changed for another mon, since the team gets chipped down by sand. I want a pokemon that is good into Psychic/Flying types, and ofc it would be better if it was a physical attacker. Any ideas for that 6th mon?

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or maybe give ttar a diff set

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it just doesnt give me as much value as i expected

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oh then maybe i suck

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