Sceptile in VGC: Is It Viable? | Pokémon Champions
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community is actively debating the viability of Sceptile in competitive play. This discussion explores team building strategies, specific matchups against Trick Room and Scarf Garchomp, and how Sceptile compares to Z-Chomp. Members analyze potential replacements for Volcarona and discuss the impact of rising Charizard Y usage on current team compositions.
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how can i improve this teams mu into tr, goli and scarf chomp and timid zomp
Volc feels very weak
It's lowk cooked
ill be honest volc is probably not the answer
nor do i think wolfs sceptile exca thing is the best either
Id disagree
It's still not good
sceptile has been good im ngl
sceptile isnt a bad pokemon i mean
Its definitely clutched some games
its for sure a decent mon
Its not that i want volc its that its not helping the team
i think theres a more consistent way to run sceptile
but with zard y usage on the rise i dont think you can run sceptile without sand or atleast a proper answer into charizard y
ive been looking a ton into lycanroc dusk
Italian snow
italian ice ofc is great
but maybe it could work with sceptile
lycanroc gets a ko onto max hp max def zard 37.5% of the time with accelrock
oh
also sceptile is just a worse version of mega zchomp
using sceptile means using a worse zchomp
I was thinking about that
They do different things imo
what does sceptile do that zchomp doesnt
like
forget abt rotom for a second
Immunity to raichu Ys basically
Grass coverage and outspeeds scarf bascs
zchomp uses earth power, sceptile uses earth power, both are fast special attackers that run stab dragon pulse (zchomp has more bulk)
zchomp also outspeeds scarf bascs 💙
Ive been liking sceptile. I definitely think wolfe was cooking
i think world had a good idea
ground is a great offensive type and sceptile is good
But you have to run timid and then you lose alot of ohkos
there is that but zchomps strength is double ups imo
ofcourse sceptile is not a carbon copy
im saying its very similar in that style
They are fs
But i wouldnt say its a worse zomp
sceptile ofcourse does its own things but we should be aware that zchomp does good aswell
eeeeh
Ye fs
anyhow
I mean timid zomps been giving me issues thats kinda the big thing and i want more reliable answers into rockslide sneaslers
wide guard
and volc should handle it
timid zchomp
is this for ladder or best of 3s
I really dont bring volc enough to warrant it
I play it mostly bo3s
okk
clef
follow me immuneto dragon moves and sceptile should deal w it
it being timid zomp
rock slide wont be an issue since volc is gone
Clef doesnt really help vs unburden sneaslers im ngl. Clef is alright i just personally dont believe in it
are you losing to unburden sneasler
also just run psychic on clef im sure it kos
My only reliable answer is the exca and no good switch ins to cc i wanna bring alot
Even then i dont really bring pult or volc
0 SpA Unaware Clefable Psychic vs. +1 0 HP / 7 SpD Sneasler: 148-176 (95.4 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
27 Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 32 HP / 32+ Def Clefable: 116-140 (57.4 - 69.3%) -- 71.48% chance to 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
32+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 32 HP / 32+ Def Clefable: 134-158 (66.3 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
i dont see the issue with using clef to deal with sneasler
... clef
fairy type resists fighting mvoes
clefairy is your pokemon
it deals with sneasler not by outspeeding but by pretty much ohkoing and you can invest 2 points into spatk leftover from 32 hp 32+def and have an 87.5% chance of ohkoing any sneasler not in psychic terrain
but if it is in psychic terrain you can just immediately ohko bc of the terrain
2 SpA Unaware Clefable Psychic vs. +1 0 HP / 7 SpD Sneasler in Psychic Terrain: 196-232 (126.4 - 149.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
it easily lives a dire claw
AND
it will live a direclaw+rock slide
AAY
send team
i did not expect to see a beedrill here
why beedrill?
does it patch up bad mus???
or is it for the funnies
and check the clef calcs i sent
What the actual fuck is beedrill
what i do tho
like why bees
i played 1 beedrill
it it drill run into my luxray
my luxray took 40% and ohkod with wild charge
💙
holy shit
well potential mon has to do SOMETHING
stunning
maybe ill build around beedrill...
js for giggles
no fucking way
WHAT
MAX HP MAX DEFENSE
potential mon is potentially good
its bulk is horrendous though 💙
and basc has 112 h
I think the bee is fake
base hp
He cant hurt me
i build a team around the bee now
ok thats kinda expected
maybe i could use beedrill as a shitty ychu
fell stinger beedrill....
skitter smack
what abt base beedrill lowk
there has to be some bum niche tjis bee can fill
Im ng
Ngl
I have to look more
In my opinion if you're gonna use a sceptile in doubles pair it with someone that knows discharge
That way you get a free sp atk boost
test clefable tho
Maybe rotom fridge
If you have one
Or Raichu it's bulky and if you build it for special moves it allows you to run discharge that hits harder than usual
Or you could give it the wise glasses to boost it's special moves
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