Building a Stamina Mudsdale Team | Pokémon VGC Strategy
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is hosting a community discussion on creating a competitive team core featuring Stamina Mudsdale and Beat Up Maushold. Members are collaborating on EV spreads, move sets, and synergy strategies to replace Archaludon in this unique gimmick build. This thread highlights the importance of speed control and support moves like After You to maximize the effectiveness of the Stamina ability in current VGC formats.
Hey so archaludon is a pretty strong pokemon in the format rn and given it great physical bulk, i figured maushold beat up+stamina archaludon with body press would be a fun gimmick to try. But archaludon doesnt learn body press in Champions so ill have to use a replacement-i have mudsdale on my mind rn (let me know if there are any better replacements). Can somone help me make a Beat Up Maushold + Stamina Mudsdale team?
I was also really hyped about archaludon because it also works in rain and rain teams are pretty strong rn
But yeah archaludon doesnt learn body press
Not sure if Mudsdale would also like sand. Honestly sand seems very unecessary for mudsdale and mudsdale doesnt seem to benefit much from it
Unless im running a sand team core with mudsdale + maushold, but i want a mudsdale + maushold core
Not sure if there are any better Stamina users aside from Mudsdale. I think mudsdale and archaludon are the only ones with stamina rn? I dont know.
So a reason that arch works with maushold is because maushold naturally outspeeds arch and arch works outside of trick room. Using mudsdale is possible, but I would pick a slower beat up user that will work inside trick room. Unfortunately there are no beat up users that are slower than mudsdale so you would need to give them a -speed nature and add speed to mudsdale
I was just thinking of beat up maushold with follow me
after you would probably be better tbh
Maushold learns after you?
yep
Woah great
So after you maus or TR maus?
TR maus doesn't work
you want beat up to go first
I see i see
So can u help me make the rest of the team?
And also give me their ev spreads, nature and moves
Thanks alot
the usual maushold set run with archaludon is follow me, rain dance, encore, and super fang. so a complete support mon
Archaludon doesnt learn body press
I may be able to help out with a team a bit later for ev spreads and such
At least not in champions
Yeah sure
I could probably talk through some things you want now I just can't split my attention from work to make spreads
yeah he doesn't that is why maushold doesn't have population bomb
im also worried about match ups
Rain teams are really good into muds
And many powerful grass mons or at least powerful mons that learn grass moves are also everywhere
I will account for it, don't worry
Most of them also tend to be special attackers
Muds is only physically bulky
Mudsdale has pretty decent special bulk tbh
Thank you so much!!
Its still vulnerable to many threats
Im also confused about items🥹kinda new srry
When are u available?
Alright so this is a preliminary idea and probably needs work but if you can get more people here to work through it with you while I am busy then it may be able to be scrubbed up and get your spreads faster
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Very rough draft so don't think like oh yeah this has to be the team
I went with my gut and my gut is often times way off the mark
Omg thanks so much
This doesnt include the spreads yet right
That is correct, it is only the moves and mons
no EVs
Okay thanks
No spreads no nature yet
correct
Okay
Still, thanks alot for ur time and help!
I greatly appreciate it
Absolutely, I may have time later to help with spreads but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to hear outside perspectives too
Alright, thanks!
this is what another team builder came up with
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What are ur thoughts on it?
Also Scetexx (a different teambuilder) told me to use trick room since my team is pretty slow, and if im going to use trick room bellibolt would be a nice addition
But maushold doesnt work in trick room
Team made by Goreytoes Dreemur btw
This looks like it could be good. Might not need all that speed on tyranitar vs bulk but only way to tell is testing it
That's what ddance is generally for. You want to give it a chance to set up and get +speed and attack. To make it bulky I would put 17 HP 15 def since you don't need the special bulk from your sand boost
Alr, thx
1 ddance and you are at 235 speed if you pull it to be 17 attack/15 speed as well
So whats the full spread
17 hp 17 atk 15 speed?
Yes and 15 def
Oh alr
Thx
Oh wait I think I'm missing 2 points
Yup
Put them wherever feels nice lol
Sp def?
You can if you want but it's not really needed that much. Sand gives you a SpD boost
And I haven't calculated anything with it so idk if 2 SpD changes any rolls
Oh okay
But idk where to put the remaining 2 hp tho
I mean 2 points srry
Probably in one of the bulks
Ig ill just put it in hp or sp def/def for now
Also I grossly miscalculated the speed at +1 boost, it's +2 boost for 200+
Def or hp perhaps, if its not need in sp def?
Ohh
So what would the spread be
HP is more well rounded for survival from both attack and special attack so probably just switch hp to 19
Alr thx
