Staraptor & Charizard Y VGC Team Building Help

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is hosting a deep-dive discussion on optimizing a Staraptor and Charizard Y team. Community members are analyzing core synergies, evaluating the role of Gholdengo, and debating the necessity of a secondary Mega Evolution. This thread provides valuable insights into competitive team building, type coverage, and strategic alternatives for high-level VGC play.

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

I just need help with finding areas that need improvement for this team

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merrykitten-85
@cosmicmeadow-33 I just need help with finding areas that need improvement for this team ![image](https://cdn.discor…
happykitten-50

I think the concept is good, but
1. What does a Staraptor mode cover for that a Zard mode doesn't?
2. What is Gholdengo achieving?

@happykitten-50 I think the concept is good, but 1. What does a Staraptor mode cover for that a Zard mode doesn't?…
cosmicmeadow-33 OP

gholdengo improves my matchup against fairies in general significantly by threatening make it rains right at their face and with the scarf trick set it can dismantle supports on switch or on the spot

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

the first question is good idk LMAO

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

i only used zard Y cause it improved my fairy defensive matchup which staraptor hates otherwise and helps with weather teams

@cosmicmeadow-33 gholdengo improves my matchup against fairies in general significantly by threatening make it rains…
cosmicmeadow-33 OP

oh and has serious synergy with staraptor

@cosmicmeadow-33 the first question is good idk LMAO
oceangrove-82

i'd possible say staraptor covers for physical weak pokémon.
but, uhh. I'd change it. Both of your megas sharing one same typing can put you in a huge struggle against ttar and excadrill or Archaludon for example

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

thats true

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

im definitely looking for an alternative dual mega on zard Y's slot

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

zard Y is the secondary mega here

@cosmicmeadow-33 i only used zard Y cause it improved my fairy defensive matchup which staraptor hates otherwise and…
happykitten-50

Those actually both good reasonings, carry on

@cosmicmeadow-33 zard Y is the secondary mega here
oceangrove-82

oh? well fairly, seeing that none other pokémon here makes use of sun

@cosmicmeadow-33 im definitely looking for an alternative dual mega on zard Y's slot
oceangrove-82

Question is, does this team ,,need" a second mega or is there an even better non mega to complete the team?

@oceangrove-82 Question is, does this team ,,need" a second mega or is there an even better non mega to complete t…
cosmicmeadow-33 OP

thats what im also asking to myself

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

i've been thinking of mega metagross but idk

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

adds too many fire weaknesses

oceangrove-82

i'd say you could try Milotic with hypnosis, Leftovers, coil, icy wind and scald

oceangrove-82

seems to make a solid las piece

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