Improve Your Pokémon Teams: Charizard to Incineroar
Summary
In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members are diving deep into competitive team building. This discussion breaks down the roles of key Pokémon like Charizard, Venusaur, and Incineroar, offering advice on synergy and speed control. It is an essential read for trainers looking to improve their competitive performance and understand the mechanics behind effective VGC team compositions.
How do I make these teams better?
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First, can you tell me what role you feel the pokemon you selected play in your team?
How do you normally use them
I ordered the images differently this time so.
Let's talk about the team I actually built the first image.
I wanted Charizard so I could set sun easily through mega so Venusaur could use Chlorophyll to outspeed and demolish rain teams, but also cover with earthquake for especially sneasler and also consistent AOE damage, Rotom Wash is immune to it so imo a good pick to pair with that layout.
But tbh now that I look at it maybe it's too unbalanced on the damage aspect and thunder wave is not much of a reliable speed control, Sneasler is there to beat down the common rain and Sandstorm teams I run into, Incineroar is there for support and reduce damage taken since most of my mons are quite frail, Mimikyu is there to deal with dragon types(Mainly dragapult).
Tbh I don't think it's a good idea to why I picked these Pokemon but I think it's quite solid sometimes, I don't know if I like using double megas though since Chlorophyll does run out when Venusaur is mega evolved...
Was mostly winged
And the second one? The person just told me it was a good team and I ran with it
Sorry if my explanation is bums btw I got stressed over irl for a moment
Nah all good
Let's take a look at incineroar
Do you know what he is used for?
He is support. He applies immense pressure and pivot
He is not there for damage
Fake out, parting shot, throat chop, protect
Yeah that's what I use him for, didn't account for thoat chop being a better move though especially since most mons seldom use voice moves at least from what I've encountered, I thought Darkest Lariat's second ability would've been better
Use that moveset Ijsted
What about the other mons?
Many of them shouldn't be on a sun team
What can I add/fix to make a more viable sun team then or ditch the whole sun team idea and build around the stronger majority...?
Sun team is so popular because it's easy to use
That's why you see it everywhere
What is your favorite mega
Mega Delphox
Then we build Round Benimaru Shinmon
Who??
Idk who Benimaru is
What does this mean
Never seen fire force?
No
https://tenor.com/view/benimaru-shinmon-fire-force-matoi-fly-benimaru-gif-27557935
Cool animation
Mega Delphox might as well be based off of him
Thing is if I add mega Delphox I gotta sacrifice Charizard because 3 fire types is a bit much
And I need a regular way to set up the sun
If I'm still building around sun
I want to keep Rotom Wash
But I am not sure what else should be in to set the sun that can keep up long enough alongside Delphox without repeating the same type
Oh we are going to build you a team for mega Delphox specifically
How?
I will help you
Nemona ahh-
LMAO
Sure I'd battle
I mean tbh I want to keep rotom wash because it has consistent results
You won't need it. Trust.
Dude just gimme a sec-
But it's rlly cool...
😔
Fine
?
Doubles
So Delphox
High SpATK Levitate avoids ground moves with mega
Maybe I could use its levitate ability to allow another mon to hit the ground harder than a breakdancer too...??
A ground type
Delphox, incin, floette, kingambit, garchomp, sneasler
I'm going to have to do the 15 ZA Royale battles
😔
I kinda wanted to come up with smth on my own though could you explain why the picks
Sure
I'm off work in about ten minites
Is there a way to do this without Floette?
You can sure
When replacing mons you can define what that Mon does and find another that fits the same role
In this case it's a backup mega
I never used Floette and KOed several survive their weird light attack to me it feels like a very offensive sweeper but
You don't NEED one
Idk what it actually does
We would be using protect draining kiss dazzling gleam and calm mind
But by removing it we can add a support Mon like sinistcha
Doesn't it lack a bit of speed control? Kingambit easily falls to Sneasler if I don't protect and I'd particularly want a quick offense to respond to it incase starting with Delphox is sub-optimal
Sucker Punch also doesn't KO Sneasler
The team I recommended to yoh
Was created by a doubles vgc world champion lol
Well hey if it worked
The concerns you have, are why floette is on the team
It deals with the threats Delphox doesn't like
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I don't like Floette though
Nothing wrong with that
So you define what those threats are and choose another mega you do like that serves the same purpose
Most Pokemon can be interchanged
And still serve the same team purpose and core
most
Dude this feels like you're speeding too fast
What I have given you is the concept for a team based around your favorite mega above all you should enjoy VGC and play with who you want build around who you want that being said you are not stuck to that exact team if you understand what the pokémon is supposed to do in your team you can change them out for other ones you like more that do the same thing
Does that make sense? I gave you a way to make Delphox viable now we focus on making Delphox fun for you
Why does everyone have shadow claw on their mimikyuus
Most ones come with it in recruitment
Thats fair I suppose but swords dance + drain punch basically counters steel types
Correct. Try to remember that since champions is free we are currently having our biggest influx of fresh players experiencing competitive play for the first time lol they don't know what is best
I think I've mentioned to put protect on almost every Mon like 40 times today alone
Thats fair
