Team Help Request: Improve VGC Team
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Summary
In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments a member requests help improving a VGC team. They want to keep Grimmsnarl and Metagross but lack special attackers and struggle versus Intimidate users like Kingambit, Annihilape, and Staraptor. Suggestions include Milotic, Sylveon or Mega Floette, swapping Mamoswine, and utility changes like Detect on Talonflame to shore up weaknesses.
hi guys I really need help to improve/change my team because right now i get destroyed against anything like i always have a big weakness idk why (maybe skill issue lol but if skill issue at least i know i can just spam that team unless i get good with it) https://pokepast.es/27cfa03e59d8cf5d
if possible i want to keep grimmsnarl and metagross, but i think one of the main problems of my team is that i don't have any good special attackers
3 of the new megas have intimidate in their base form
Yet you had the guts to do full physical
I salute to you comrad

kinda feels like an insult but kinda feels like a compliment... thanks i guess ?
If anyone can look at it real quick it would really help me
I think you need something against intimidate
I think milotic could work well here, also you probably want at least one special attacker
That’s why I had mammoswine but it’s clearly not enough
yeah mamo is solid but they can still drop your partners attack
Also I’m really struggling against pokemons like kingambit, annihilape or staraptor because of their ability
So I also thought about removing scrafty from the team but idk what else to put instead
you could go mega floette, strong special moves that are pretty good into those 3
or sylveon
What’s the main difference between these 2
(Besides 1 being mega I guess)
yeah sylveon is basically just mega floette but weaker
I would go sylveon tho cause you can actually use it with metagross
do you bring talonflame a lot?
Yes
For the tailwind mostly
I thought it would be able to do something after but it is usually a dead pokemon after using tailwind
you could replace mamoswine with milotic, that also frees up the focus sash to put on talonflame
Why would you run detect over protect ?
And I keep scrafty ?
when people use imprison against you detect wont get taken away
I would use sylveon instead
so i have 1 free spot right now
nah I think you have six, swapping mamoswine and scrafty for milotic and sylveon
you could replace grimmsnarl tho depending on how often you bring it
so i have 2 water type mons ?
a lot of teams stack typings
and you don't have to bring both to a game
I go full speed but SpA on sylveon ?
Timid nature
Or too slow ?
max hp, max Spa, fairy feather is the standard set
I can draft a set gimme a sec
Detect is the same as protect, just different name right ?
https://pokepast.es/06480a87aca09630
yeah
https://pokepast.es/118ed81027b35505
I chose coil milotic because it can set up using grimmsnarls screens
I will have to check milotic’s set because I don’t know half of the attacks lol
Thanks bro that helped me a lot
np bro teambuilding is usually pretty difficult
Yes…
the team kicks ass bro
but coil milotic is really cancer lmmao
lmaoo glad you like it
yeah i've forfeit so many times to milotic lol
it's usually not worth taking it unless there is intimidate mons/ grimmsnarl or i can bring it against a slow team where i would have time to setup
makes sense it doesn't really do damage if it doesn't get intimidated
I don’t really use talonflame now with this version of the team
It doesn’t help anything I wanna do