Team Help Request: Improve VGC Team

Summary

In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments a member requests help improving a VGC team. They want to keep Grimmsnarl and Metagross but lack special attackers and struggle versus Intimidate users like Kingambit, Annihilape, and Staraptor. Suggestions include Milotic, Sylveon or Mega Floette, swapping Mamoswine, and utility changes like Detect on Talonflame to shore up weaknesses.

jadeknight-30 OP

hi guys I really need help to improve/change my team because right now i get destroyed against anything like i always have a big weakness idk why (maybe skill issue lol but if skill issue at least i know i can just spam that team unless i get good with it) https://pokepast.es/27cfa03e59d8cf5d

merrykitten-85
jadeknight-30 OP

if possible i want to keep grimmsnarl and metagross, but i think one of the main problems of my team is that i don't have any good special attackers

cleverinbox-49

3 of the new megas have intimidate in their base form

cleverinbox-49

Yet you had the guts to do full physical

cleverinbox-49

I salute to you comrad

jadeknight-30 OP

:CuboneWhat:

jadeknight-30 OP

kinda feels like an insult but kinda feels like a compliment... thanks i guess ?

jadeknight-30 OP

If anyone can look at it real quick it would really help me

hazelpixel-44

I think you need something against intimidate

hazelpixel-44

I think milotic could work well here, also you probably want at least one special attacker

jadeknight-30 OP

That’s why I had mammoswine but it’s clearly not enough

hazelpixel-44

yeah mamo is solid but they can still drop your partners attack

jadeknight-30 OP

Also I’m really struggling against pokemons like kingambit, annihilape or staraptor because of their ability

jadeknight-30 OP

So I also thought about removing scrafty from the team but idk what else to put instead

hazelpixel-44

you could go mega floette, strong special moves that are pretty good into those 3

hazelpixel-44

or sylveon

jadeknight-30 OP

What’s the main difference between these 2

jadeknight-30 OP

(Besides 1 being mega I guess)

hazelpixel-44

yeah sylveon is basically just mega floette but weaker

hazelpixel-44

I would go sylveon tho cause you can actually use it with metagross

hazelpixel-44

do you bring talonflame a lot?

jadeknight-30 OP

Yes

jadeknight-30 OP

For the tailwind mostly

jadeknight-30 OP

I thought it would be able to do something after but it is usually a dead pokemon after using tailwind

hazelpixel-44

you could replace mamoswine with milotic, that also frees up the focus sash to put on talonflame

jadeknight-30 OP

Why would you run detect over protect ?

jadeknight-30 OP

And I keep scrafty ?

@jadeknight-30 Why would you run detect over protect ?
hazelpixel-44

when people use imprison against you detect wont get taken away

@jadeknight-30 And I keep scrafty ?
hazelpixel-44

I would use sylveon instead

jadeknight-30 OP

so i have 1 free spot right now

hazelpixel-44

nah I think you have six, swapping mamoswine and scrafty for milotic and sylveon

hazelpixel-44

you could replace grimmsnarl tho depending on how often you bring it

jadeknight-30 OP

so i have 2 water type mons ?

@jadeknight-30 so i have 2 water type mons ?
hazelpixel-44

a lot of teams stack typings

hazelpixel-44

and you don't have to bring both to a game

jadeknight-30 OP

I go full speed but SpA on sylveon ?

jadeknight-30 OP

Timid nature

jadeknight-30 OP

Or too slow ?

hazelpixel-44

max hp, max Spa, fairy feather is the standard set

hazelpixel-44

I can draft a set gimme a sec

jadeknight-30 OP

Detect is the same as protect, just different name right ?

jadeknight-30 OP

https://pokepast.es/06480a87aca09630

hazelpixel-44

yeah

hazelpixel-44

https://pokepast.es/118ed81027b35505

hazelpixel-44

I chose coil milotic because it can set up using grimmsnarls screens

jadeknight-30 OP

I will have to check milotic’s set because I don’t know half of the attacks lol

jadeknight-30 OP

Thanks bro that helped me a lot

hazelpixel-44

np bro teambuilding is usually pretty difficult

jadeknight-30 OP

Yes…

@hazelpixel-44 https://pokepast.es/118ed81027b35505
jadeknight-30 OP

the team kicks ass bro

jadeknight-30 OP

but coil milotic is really cancer lmmao

@jadeknight-30 the team kicks ass bro
hazelpixel-44

lmaoo glad you like it

hazelpixel-44

yeah i've forfeit so many times to milotic lol

@hazelpixel-44 yeah i've forfeit so many times to milotic lol
jadeknight-30 OP

it's usually not worth taking it unless there is intimidate mons/ grimmsnarl or i can bring it against a slow team where i would have time to setup

@jadeknight-30 it's usually not worth taking it unless there is intimidate mons/ grimmsnarl or i can bring it agai…
hazelpixel-44

makes sense it doesn't really do damage if it doesn't get intimidated

jadeknight-30 OP

I don’t really use talonflame now with this version of the team

jadeknight-30 OP

It doesn’t help anything I wanna do

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