Trick Room Mega Picks for Global Challenge
Summary
In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments members debate single versus dual mega strategies and share trick room doubles team ideas ahead of the Global Challenge. The announcement covers choosing a mega, Farigiraf as the trick room setter, Mega Camerupt versus alternatives like Torkoal, Golurk considerations, matchup problems, and practical team-building tips relevant to competitive play.
I am building tr for the global challenge and am struggling to pick a mega
Dual or single
Farig is def my trick room setter
Oh I don't play singles only doubles
single mega or double mega 💀
Oh when's the global challenge coming?
Did it already start?
next week
I haven't logged in today yet
Dang
I have a dual mega TR team, which got me to 1975
Kane at worlds?
Now I am losing game after game
:0
Lmao
Yeah...
I mean if gets enough championship points
Perish is back under development which means I need another team
And all the mons I tend to use are tw coded
I need a team that can actually cover each others weaknesses XD
But this is your thread Kane, so let's make something hehe
I'm probably gonna use my current team at the global challenge
I built this awesome mega camerupt TR team tho
Which mega are you looking at
If I keep losing like this I ain't even gonna compete tomorrow
Hmmm
Why must you trick room then?
Just for novelty?
I am looking at golurk
But he's weak to so much rn
A lot of TR users are weak to a lot in meta
I think Mega Camerupt is really good imo
At least from me trying it
I could show the team so you could take inspo from perhaps, Kane?
I just got wiped again by primarina
Mega camerupt is a waste of a mega slot where torkoal does the same thing imo
back from 5k to 11k, I got triple flinched on iron head, gotta love it right
Sheer force on camerupt does a lot
F
So does sun boosted eruption
https://pokepast.es/395950d83a2cc22a
Don't use this is my advice
losing 5 games in a row :D
Ig I just need to figure out what all megas will work in tr first
I love aggrons defensive typing but it's not great rn
You can just say it sucks, as in I get killed by almost everything
Golurks ability to be an absolute threat to top tier teams like m.floette and sun is great
But everything else scares me and idk how to cover it off the rip
None of his standard moves are 100 accurate which also sucks
i mean it depends on some factors imo running 2 megas is not unusual
What are you weak to currently
Water grass ice ghost dark
Hmm
I was gonna suggest Aegislash but idk if that's a good suggestion
- nature 0 spd ttar is still just too fast
So that megas out
Hnm...
If I am going to go middling speed mega it should have utility
Wait I'm not home rn when I'm home I'm sure I'll get an idea
Pffft
I am done for today and won't compete tomorrow
Let's build a team here
I was gonna suggest Torkoal and Hatterene tbh(?)
Why can I not remember a single slow grass type
😭
Aggron can work Kane, it just needs way too much set up
Crab is alright I guess
TR has a lot going against it though
Crab works well against opposing ice types yes
But there's still a water grass weakness unless you run freeze-dry
ice hammer
Does it hit water types for super effective?
covers grass, so now only water remains
Pikachu /j
I mean in TR what are you going to use except sinistcha against water
Also don't listen to me all too much I am tilted as fuck
I think main water threat rb is Blastoise which benefits from TR
Water spout is quite stronk
Milotic too
Milo is too quick
I am literally having that as an issue with my team
I need to switch to primarina I think
Might just have start from scratch again
I was naming water threats lol
That might be troublesome
Yeah, against the TR team I assume, as we are working on that
So, in TR, it isn't as much of a threat
err
Abomasnow is
slow
yes, but for which side are you recommending
on our team, or when the enemy has it
finally won a game again
I was going crazy
Fuck it we're going golurk
That makes it so far farig golurk
Biggest threat to this is currently
Water grass
Ice
Ghost dark can be played around
So water and grass weak to poison
Ice beaten out by fighting
Ok.
Min sneasler is 112
So that's out
Tork is good into sun and hard walls grass and ice
Hard tr?
Yes
Currently sitting on a soft team of farigiraf rotom wash torkoal mega golurk
Incin has arrived
Okay
Last Mon
What's walling me
Currently looks like your main setter and threat get own zoned by gambit
How's your sand matchup?
Rotom
Golurk
Hmmmm
Manual swap incin?
What does the ev spread on farig do?
Garunteed survive or percentage?
Sounds good
I don't run tr mons enough to understand the stat spreads most of the time haha best to just ask for an explanation
Sorry for not giving advice reliably, Kane
I fell asleep
Eh it's fine
Youll have an easier time keeping up with the thread to learn things tbh
I am typing out my thought process for you in particular in fact
huh
wdym
😭
I am giving you examples on how to think for team building
Well thanks
Idk how good it'd be to me half asleep though
I'll read up later
A good idea
Iron tail removes sucker punch from the table making him have to click kowtow
Chople berry removes the fighting threat which is why most run it
Which leaves probably fire as my best shot I wonder if I can get incin flare blitz to reliably ohko without sacrificing too much bulk
That still leaves one Mon slot
Who walls me the most how can I get around it. And should it be support or damage
Aegislash covers me from spread spam and gives me fighting moves
And a way to check ghost with poltergiest
Yeah I was thinking the maus or sinistcha
But drain punch on golurk covers
The hospitality swap in alone saves games
I will def try
Sixth slot test so far
Aegislash, maushold, sinistcha
Friend guard is nice but maus does not live very long
Sinistcha fits bets. Second tr setter if for some ungodly reason I need it
Top tier healing and burn chance
Aegislash is nice to protect me from low skill players who do nothing but click spread to crutch and high tier players who use them to sweep and breaks walls
Okay I think sinistcha
when you catch up here, we still have two steps to go
can you explain your thoughts behind terrain+force farig
Over like helping hand hyper voice
Gotcha
I think I'm gonna do the helping hand hypervoice
I don't see any other benefits from terrain for me and it could cripple me if I need prio later
Lol
Most of my speaking out the thoughts is for the benefit of teaching muffin how to think through options for themself
Putting all of my internal dialogue into chat for people to learn from that read the thread
I think I like the farig stat spread and item.
I feel like points aren't being used am I missing something
Now that I'm looking at farig
I'm just saying it looks like four points went unused
I think? I might be wrong
Is my bigger threat for golurk physical or special
I think special yes?
Alr
Now we test and make adjustments
Torkoal doesn't hit hard enourh
I was hoping sustain would do it for him but he needs charcoal max invest
I see
wait where's headlong rush
huh
On who
golurk
Was thinking about swapping out thunder punch
Will try that
I'd also highley recommend poltergeist
doesn't make contact but is a high base power stab move that's hard to resist
After testing sinistcha I will be testing aegislash
Left it off because I would be running it on aegi
He is running ice punch rn for dragon counter
Does he get steel
yeah 90% acc ain't great but you're not really hitting a bunch of common stuff like rotom very hard otherwise
keep in mind that stab poltergiest on a neutral target is still stronger than a super effective ice/thunder punch
personally I'd prob play dual stabs with a coverage move and protect since imo most of the time your mega should be playing protect for easier positioning
Would gyro ball heavy slam or hard press do more dmg to floette?
He gets iron head too
no meme headlong rush deals more than both
To fairy
Over steel
I have told you forty times leo
You have your thread
Use it
do what?
the calcs are in the image
huh
but it's dealing less damage than poltergeist
floette is bulky
I'm calcing based on 252hp
(32)
nah shadow punch sucks
I would highly suggest you take the time out to read the rules
the unfortunate truth about golurk is you're gonna miss poltergeist lmao
drampa plays draco meteor tho
it's the same thing
you're just not picking up KOs if you play the accurate move
bro it's the same acc as poltergeist 😭
losing my mind
Hm
I saw lmao
I get it
That no parting shot however
https://tenor.com/view/futurama-philip-j-fry-drool-drooling-foaming-gif-4920062
I want my incin to run from what hurts it and make everything hurt less lmao
Lmaoooooo
When I don't want incin
I just being light ball Pikachu lmao
I mean
Pikachu is the nuke 🥲😂
Not if you negative nature I think
I'm out here ohkoing with volt switch and hard checking rotom wash
Yeah 85 speed
Let's put the square in the square hole they say to me as I find a way to shove my hate crime tazer rat into the slot
I think he learns magnet rise
I'd need to check
I miss my air baloon
The thought of a trainer thing a balloon to that abomination sends me
I have adjusted the moves and ev spreads a couple times
But man everyone on showdown is running tr against me
The battles are taking AGES
There is a mistyping there sinistcha is supposed to have it
He ohkos milotic and zard and is immune to eq was my reasoning
Lemme try sylveon
I'm just not comfy with tr in general
Which is why I'm trying it now lmao
I like my mons fast, annoying, and powerful
Makes sand counter a little hard without him no?
Hm
I'll rework this a bit
A lot of slots feel wrong in practice
Matcha burn rage powder and life dew with that typing kinda clutches matches plus the hospitality switch in
I prefer amoonguss
But this is the only thing that feels like it fills that void
I def like farig
That slot was supposed to be tr
I'm just so used to that sinistcha build I auto typed it in lmao
Build for perish sustain haha
I swapped that for tr and have just been using sinistcha for rage powder into weaknesses and matcha burn/self sustain
Everything else can be however
Farig is how I have been shutting down sneasler
I'll look into tr setters
Klefki feels good in the slot but isn't filling the same role outside of defensive weather
So I dropped that
Mimikyu hasn't been tested either
Yeah I had to get that damn kid to stop with the offensive mimi
Lmao
That would be me
That was when sinis came to zard matches and farig to gambit, when both are there I can ff XD
Why would normal cover his ghost weakness
He's weak to water grass ice ghost dark
Sure. You can also just play around ghost typings
OKAY NEW PLAN
M-Emboar. I am open to tailroom and hard tr
Let's build something dumb
Okay
I need a swap for sneas and chomp that still gives me fake out and fighting as well as ground and dragon coverage
But middling speed
Wait what's chomps base speed
I could toxicroak sneaslers spot
But if chomp base is like 100 or so it can still work out
102 ok
Now we're cooking straight trash
Dumpster fire 🔛 🔝
Ev spread is next
Since I am playing into either or nothing really needs speed (kinda)
I continue pokepastes here. I threw first half and still win
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2594342968
Why were you protect spamming on whim 😭
Is toxicroak built so it works in both parts of tailroom
Emboar TR
I didn't want to switch it out yet and they wanted to remove it. Toxicroak is built to work in tr and tw emboar can be played in tw but I prefer not to Greninja is strictly tw
Toxicroak is basically a weaker budget sneasler
I don't like garchomp in the slot but don't know who to swap it with
And I def need to play when I have more sleep in me and not quick spam in-between parts of my job.
Makes for too many misplays
The evs also need tuned these were just rough estimates
But it works!
https://tenor.com/view/kakein-gif-254856813219859646
