Mastering VGC: Expert Pokémon Team Building Advice
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server provides a collaborative space for trainers to refine their competitive teams. This discussion focuses on optimizing sandstorm-based teams, countering meta threats like Archaludon, and improving synergy through strategic Pokémon swaps. Members share expert advice on move sets, held items, and team composition to help players succeed in the current VGC format.
I am struggling against arch a lot what can I change https://pokepast.es/09262c7c1bc0912d
Bro
Chill
Not enough special pressure
Usually a simple way to kill arch is hit it once with a strong physical and then then finish it with some special
Overheat?
Wdym?
That would do it yeah as long as rains not up
Ye you only have yard and venu and venu aint doing anything to arch in its base form
Arch likes rain too, so yard aint effective against it
Especially since electro shot booms ya
No need to spam the '@teambuilder'
It takes 3 turns to kill with low kick ttar but that's the prob
I didn't spam it I said it once
I got 2 notifications so idk
Whatever i will be careful so help me with the topic
Thats way to slow
Yeah that's why I am here
😭
Uhhhhhhh
Your team is kinda a mess ngl
Its too sand heavy imo
I am new so I trust you guys for a solution 👍
If you can help
You could just go full sand. Remove Zard, give Venu a mega stone if you want to keep it
Corvi for tailwind instead of aerodactyl, sash on excadrill
This is my team can I do full rain?
Eelektross has potential with the sand mons
Meganium not bad too, Metagross either
Hydreigon works well in sand too
Yeah whatever excadrill doesn't hit electross does
I'd highly recommend Corvi for tailwind but Hydreigon can tailwind too in the meantime
My issue with your team was that it felt like there were 6 good mons, that were all competiting with each other and had conflicting roles on the team
Like ony said drop zard add corv
change venu for meganium its abillity lets you pretend sun is up for it has better coverage with grass Fairy and fire
personally I would go poli, swampert, basc, metagross, whims, hydreigon based on your team comp if you want to run rain
I saw a sick mega chomp trick room team with oranguru as oranguru has telepathy for immunity from eq, gravity for flying mons and instruct for double eq in 1 turn just telling you guys I will try it later
If you guys wanna try it then try it
If you dont run rain, I would swap into metagross, whims, hydreigon or garchomp, basc, kang or raichu, and sylveon(???)
hi
No arch in rain?
Send that team you were talking abt
Its in YouTube video by Joe18 SMTH lemme pull it up
Arch isn't bad but your main draw for him in rain is electro shot. Lose your rain, lose your one turn electroshot. Basculegion in rain is significantly stronger and also works outside of rainso you don't have to worry as much about your rain team being too dependent on it being up
i wouldnt play double weather especially not when they have bad synergy/similar weaknesses. Also it really limits your playstyle and can barely give you any balanced plays
Mega Garchomp Might Be BROKEN In Pokémon Champions... Is the title search it up by Justin tang and joe
Lemme read it wait a min
Click baity title tbh, M Garchomp is almost exclusively worse than having non mega
I thought so too but watch the first 5 min then see and Justin tang is a renowned vgc player
It works till ub tier so I ran it i want to challenge mb tier so I am changing it
It was a very fun team
Mega garch, sneasler, oranguru, sylveon, incin and vivlion
Thats the team
I mean it's a fun team ain't it play some casual matches with it
Yeah and Wolfe Glick has a video titled "Everyone Underestimates Mega Crabominable" and the video proceeds to go into using the crab and being strong but also being not good at all and them admitting it lol.
Fam you didn't change my wife guard/roar 😭😭😭
Wdym? I am sorry i don't remember
Did you change it to rock slide?
Paste literally has a /
Because I had it there so you choose
Lmao
Wide guard worked good so I didn't suspect it
Oh yeah it's def your same team copy pasted not like I am experienced enough to message with it and am grateful for it
Mess with it*
Yeah you have to choose one of the two that's my point
Anyway as I have been doing my research
On this exact core structure
Aka Yard tailroom
One thing I will point out with your existing team is that currently Garchomp prefers running life orb. Most people in low MB and above are specing to survive hits from LO Garchomp, so having scarf gives you a speed advantage you generally don't need (due to tailwind) and a damage disadvantage
If you want it with aero
https://pokepast.es/18c6efff8c61dfbf
This is the 6 you would want imo
This my idea:-
- Mega Garch
- Mega gard/delphox
- Incin/Sneasler
- Oranguru
- Corv
- Kingambit
Garchomp Lorb because new meta
Ikr, literally every garch I play against has it
I will put sets on my coaching channel in a bit
It OHKO's every Yard that's why
Yeah many times scarf alone ruins my game like a hydreigon in the back when I am locked into eq
There's some roselis taking advantage of yards not being bulky tho
I have seen one or two of them
For whim blast
You have a coaching channel?
Coaching
Well the new thing
The #channel school
Or whatever it is now
If I were you, I would probably try and step back from any weather except for rain with your current mons. There are some decent sun teams but you don't really have the mons for it and sand is just generally not good right now, even if you're above average at piloting teams
Ib has one too
Yeah I use sand rarely I lose in those as compared to sun as all my mons share common weaknesses like cc sneasler etc
Personally, I would go with, in order of ease of use, the non rain team I made, this team here would tie the rain team I made. If you are up to redoing it that is
The reason I said that order is because the non rain team doesn't have any gimmicks to pilot. Just use the team best for the circumstance. Rain and Tailroom all have specific ways you need to pilot them through threats
All teams need a specific way of piloting
And yes this one is hard to use but probably one of the best around
https://pokepast.es/a91b555ca1e85e0e for me is this team better or the tr yard
Well yes, but asking a new person to pilot tailroom is significantly more difficult than asking them to pilot something without also worrying about weather, when to use a tailwind or trick room, etc
TR yard is better. Lycanroc serves one purpose, take out zard. Meta has shifted enough that he is often times useless on ladder. Way too many things can take out Froslass easily right now and there are a lot of big threats to sneasler as well
Thank you I will try the team then if it doesn't work it doesn't
It will be my skill issue
I got a ton of teams to try anyway I am having fun
I would try and get a bit more info from Gamer for how to spec that team out as well. I'm not familiar enough with it to really give you a decent idea of stat spread that works.
Yeah def. I am not trying to set evs myself I will rather lose.😭
send the ev and move spreads whenever you can
They are in the making
It's one of the sample teams I'll put on in the first lesson in the Metagame Breakdown
I want to brief this team if you can
Arch, poli, scovillain, sneasler, dragonite and espathra. Dual mega dragonite + scovillain with offensive poli. The main strategy is to call mind baton pass espathra to arch but in a bad matchup you can baton pass to poli as a backup.
I completely disagree with the entirety of this paragraph btw
Oh how so?
I have heard accelerok lycanrock is used especially to counter yard.
I don't know much I am saying what i heard
Well maybe not the entirety
This part is correct
Lycanroc is there got yard
But
This team is not outdated by any means
In my opinion it is actually at its best
True but I am not into froslass to be exact so I won't be using it😅 i like yard much better
About your thoughts on this?
https://pokepast.es/40ea8d96c2ff1e57 you mean this
What exactly do you want me to do
https://youtu.be/70h27z7trGI?is=28g_UYqgdpwAbhcq
I was asking your opinion on if player of my level can play this team
Till mb
Well I will not explain the concepts because I won't do a better job that Cybertron
But yeah it's really easy
Idk if it's up to date with the threats
Thank you then for your time i will try it after I get espathra
And also it will not be good long time, while yard Tailroom will have a use
Even with little tweaks
Yeah but I have wanted to use arch but haven't been able to i like arch
Yard tr is gonna be my ranked play team fs I am picking this team to play casuals later when I get espathra
Honestly I'm not really sure where you are coming from with a lot of your team picks. It is like you generally ignoring the entirety of the new Pokemon and items introduced in MB
Yeah I feel most of them are just kind of inducing a kind of "new toy" syndrome to most people
I generally do not feel like pyroar or idk like sceptile or staraptor are worth whatsoever
Mawile is fine but it only pairs well on teams going hard TR in needing a second mega tr mode
Gholdengo and annhilape absolutely suck
I am a rain hater so I'd never use swampert
Only things I really look forward to building with and I'm cooking up something with is mega metagross and blaziken as a pair
I feel they are the only things that might have long term value
Mark my words blaziken will have its time to shine it's my MB prediction
And no I am not really ignoring them, I just know that the team I have shared is capable of actually beating them
I agree with metagross completely. I think good pilots could probably make blaziken work but you have to be a very good pilot. Gholdengo isn't horrible wife Lorb but why bring it when you have metagross or basculegion available
I don't see why we disagree
Lol
Blaziken is a total glass cannon and needs hard reads to pull off
Although if you can pull it off it's the best MB mega
Still waiting for yard tr team hope you can complete it faster
