VGC Team Building: Help Optimize This Surprise Staraptor Tea
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is hosting a community discussion on a unique VGC team featuring Staraptor and Bellibolt. Members are analyzing the team's synergy, questioning specific item choices like Air Balloon, and providing constructive feedback on EV spreads and move sets. This thread highlights the collaborative nature of the community as players refine unconventional strategies for competitive play.
dont ask:
Staraptor @ Life Orb
Ability: Reckless
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Blaze Kick
- Protect
- Double-Edge
Bellibolt @ Air Balloon
Ability: Electromorphosis
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Soak
- Parabolic Charge
- Protect
Slowking @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 11 Def / 23 SpD
Calm Nature
- Trick Room
- Scald
- Chilly Reception
- Protect
Rillaboom
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Grassy Glide
- Protect
- High Horsepower
Rotom-Heat @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Def / 32 SpD
Modest Nature
- Discharge
- Overheat
- Will-O-Wisp
- Volt Switch
Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Heat Wave
- Air Slash
- Protect
- Solar Beam
the idea is
surprise staraptor
and bellibolt is js there cuz i like him
if you have any other funny surprise mons lmk
Rocky helmet is again, some crazy tech.
Bro when it comes to putting RH on the most random pokemon
https://klipy.com/gifs/lebron-james-miami-heat-6
Jolly zard y
Its super weird like idk how im going to fix this
Maybe suggesting modest
What do i do then im here for contructive criticism
https://pokepast.es/bfe4a531add50272
Ok bri
If i suck then uhh
idea behind the team?
The first messages
ok
Bellibolt is kinda ass on the team so get rid of him
staraptor is supposed to take big kos im assuming
Parabolic charge with no ground type or telepathy users
if you wanna use bellibolt why r we sticking air balloon on him lowk and wheere are your ground / telepathy mons
this works but why tf is slowbro running chilly reception
Weather control and pivoting i guess
why are we no bulk yard wtf 😭
I could run like eforce
I run those
ehh bulky yard is better in mo
Usually with whims so i can outspeed more things
you just auto lose to seed sneasler and you HAVE to lead whims then
Do i ev to live like accelerock
or get a double protect
I can prolly run half this team cuz im vp broke but ill grind
From dusk lycanroc
i will make you belibolt team 💙
Peak
rock slide sneasler / rock tomb sneasler + rock slide garchomp
lycanroc isnt as common as far as ive seen
Eyyy preciate it boss
All of these things seem impossible to live
Rock tomb is a possibility
i mean if theres anything else better then zard be my guest he was js there bc i thought i had to bring SOME kind of meta in the team alongside rillaboom
Max def zard lives adamant sneas rock tomb
Skull
i also love Mdnite but i dont think hes good this format
2 hp 23 def live spread rock slide
Should live accelerock too
we'll hafta see but i wouldnt recommend preemtively eving to live
if you live that within the other 3 i mentioned then sure
calc for it as a spread move move around the EVs you'll find it
Those guys run adamant?
yes
they always want to ohko zard
Since when
Damn
accelroc is a prio move why invest in speed or go jolly
Other mons
what other mons 😭
its there to ko zars
otherwise you have cc an base 102 speed i think
speed is fine
Hm...
yea more than enough
i thought that was dawn
dawn is 112 afaik
32 Atk Sneasler Rock Tomb vs. 9 HP / 23 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 136-164 (83.9 - 101.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Oh welp
i rmr when everyone was joking abt how italian ice is gonna be really good this meta
not bad
LMAO
usually with ev spreads yoy wanna ev to guaranteed live or 6.5%
32+ Atk Sneasler Rock Tomb vs. 20 HP / 28 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 144-172 (83.2 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Much better
ehh
Just get uhh a priority blocker so that it wont explode immediately after
indeedee?
idk
Flying types dont get affected by psy terrain
🙏
zard flys
damn youre right
thought it was the user for a sec
Get farig prob
Replace slowking
🤔
i mean thats IF i go up against lycarock right
or is he crazy in play rn
havent played in a bit
Was popular when zard y was still terrorizing reg mb
One team ive seen it on was mega froslass and mscovillain
Uhh
What mons are on italian ice
but is this guy ok right now or is he a hard no
You wont see him now but he will pop up soon enough
Simple
for who would i switch it then
if i would use it
not yard i assume
rn im looking at this
js roughly
atleast i wanna keep surprise staraptor
and then prolly farig instead of slowk and i keep yard
yeah ik ill see how it turns out
might do that
but ig it could live after on hit with lifeorb doubleedge
might need to do some calcs
on anything rly
the recoil
after it would die to otehr mons now that im thinkg abt it
yeah im not talkin living a suicide move
it was abt the first plan
but idk
It explodes after using double edge or brave bird btw
oh shit it doesnt survive?
Tanking another hit is uhh hard
but what does more dmg
scarf finalgambit
or
this
Let me just get a game
50% hp lost after one brave bird
Insane
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmc-2698748625
Uhh yeah just to show how much dmg the staraptor takes
Too bad a crit had to ruin his day
If it was full hp the recoil wouldve exploded the staraptor
Like below 50% hp
What was the bascu doing lmao
He seems to have forgot the type chart
Ok
Would talonflame be okay aswell
48% on mega mawile
Yeah final gambit is just better
Oh yeah no helping hand
Would definitely deal 50% with it
Personally i like final gambit more but eh
https://pokepast.es/4179341724c1fc6b
if you wanna check it out heres an updated version
It does
In za i believe
You’ve clearly never had a pet rooster
Could reckless lorb blaze kick, braveb, double e, and tailwind be viable?
https://klipy.com/gifs/kick-keiji
I assume not
Explodes after killing a farig
If it even kills
Thats basically my spread lo
Thats 57 to 60% with lorb
Fear
Oh
But like setting tailwind up, maybe surviving a turn and going out w a bang
That could work.
Cant do thar with f gambit
Yeah thasr the idea
Oh yeah just realized
That team has no speed control
