Optimizing Your Steel-Type VGC Team | Pokémon Champions
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The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community is discussing how to optimize a Steel-type team for current ranked regulations. This thread focuses on replacing underperforming members like Orthworm and improving Lucario's survivability with support options like Grimmsnarl. It serves as a helpful resource for players looking to refine their competitive lineups while maintaining their favorite Pokémon.
I've done this before, but I'll do it again because the new regulations are coming. I'd also like to use this team in regular ranked not only on yhis server. I can have 2 non-steel pokemon but they are good (other version of Wolfey team tbf )
Problems:
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My goat orthworm is bad in this team so we need to add other steel type... so we need to swap him for other
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Lucario is a calss Cannon ( hope z-mega will fix this ).
Goal:
I want it to be my normal team to use because I love all of the pokemon there (RIP my goat orthworm 
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I have good pokemon knowledge tho in VCG is not that good.
You have free hand on this. Just pls don't swap the entire team. Just my problems and mabey some amendments.
Hope you can help me 
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Now we wait.....
Ye
Bad timing
So no one will show up
Lemme shower rq I'll see
Best nickname i made
His job was ( you won't gues ) bait oponents to attack it
Yep
No idea why tbf
I just stole it from Wolfey 😭
Which of the mons would you like to keep
For mega luca z you would want to have some sort of way to protect him from special moves as his ability halves contact ones, when you look at the team there is giant fire weaknesse as you are running steel type and that's is to be expected. I think you can add screen support to Luca Z and be good with grimmsnarl as he also has fake out screens and many useful support moves. If you are going to keep Steelix as secondary mega than Ttar is definitely staying tho if you want to change it we can maybe run mega Ttar into Lucarios bad match ups.
Adding a ghost type also can make this team so good or fairy that it's secondary typing is not weak to fighting or fire
I have Sinistcha
Tho i don't use it that often too
THO trick room is very important
I need smth for orthworm unfortunately.
But there is no good steel pokemon to this team
Fire and Eart is my enemy
Ofc i will add heatran for Lucario later....
But now I hope some good steel type pokemon will come in M-C
Still earth and fire, tho -1 fight weeknes
I don't have support mon now
The 1 things i will get from him are Thunderbolt and Shadow ball ith....
Not sure here
I had smth like this but it was too good for my skill lvl. Klefki gave rain for archa. Like the thing is no steel pokemon will help me in my situation rn
Ith
That why im asking
Tho klefki can be screen guy
The Fish with tm 
i need sandstorm or trick room thats the point
No worry, I love ideas. Tho i playd with similar team in the past
Sinistcha is better because of rage powder. Tho if i swap Sinistcha for klefki i have more weekneses, tho i can have any pokemon i want
Hmmm
But my team worked good. That's why I don't want to change it to much
Sinistcha can heal my pokemon, burn Garchomp, fight immunity
Rage Powder
Kinda
I had one in the past. He was good tbf
Good idea
Yes
Like... I made copy of Wolfey team
Yes it can, good Def and hit hard
Yep
Lucario is downgrade from Snizler and tinkaton has fake out
Like I'm not that guy ofc. Thats copy everything that Wolfey does. This time it helps me
Best question I have is Sponge do you want to continue with almost full steel type team or no
https://youtu.be/inQoYsuK2qE?si=-rIUhnaTseKImqbH
I have too, need it for steel gym later but more important for the lader
Okay we can make two versions of the team if Ulavala is up for it
Now need stats and ig its done....................................................
Team up?
https://klipy.com/gifs/arceus-prowler
Same as Carlo and K9 did last time
Tho now we can look for more answers for two teams
And you are in my team forever
for that
ofc
So 2 teams
One with 4 steel types plus 2 non steel ones
And one normalish team
kinda yes
With the same core three or no
but ig first we have
Or why am I asking just say which one you want to be in the team
for second we need M-C'
Doesn't matter
We can make variations of it
I have 4 variations of my M Golisopod team
Idk do you`r magic ig.. Last time it worked till i changed smth
so i trust you 100%
Brother it's the team that you will use
I don't want to make you a team you don't like using even if it's best
I hate playing big 6
I don`t have premium pokemon chempions 
It's all in Pokémon Showdown
I wanted to make a 5eam with some of possible mons
Last time it worked. We need to wait for M-C, because if we make second team we will change it later im sure
The best cases
Than do you want to wait for M-C?
Ig we don`t have any other way
We can only predict the mons
That's the only option rn
Like core of the team is Ttar and Steelix ig... rest is you`rs
problem is wolfey lost with that team
so i will 100% more
I'm just giving you guys ass core for the team and tell to try make it work ( even tho pokemon chempion coudn`t)
Like for my knowledge. We can make the second team: Ttar, Steelix, rillaboom, farigiraf. And the other 2 will be from M-C ith
Because Rillaboom can turn off earthquake
I know but im giving you bad core for the team, literally copied from Wolfey ( tho me and aramiss made it before him ) and ask you to make it better
So it can work
Like you can't re-make team better if past team were the best
His team lost against people who are top 300 in world bro
Don't worry
Most of the enemies we will face are nowhere near as good
I like the core 3 Ulavala mentioned
Thats a good point. Like i focused that it lost in hands of the best player ( top 2 btw )
Of Luca z rilla and basc
If he was top 2 against them
You can win almost anything than
So with no predict now. We will use known pokemon. So Steelix, Ttar, rillaboom, basc, "fire" mon for rillaboom and smth
We just need better version of this + prepared for M-C
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I think it's better to use flying type mon
Instead of fire
Good idea
What a pity we can't use talonflame
We can use mega salamance... but then ttar won't have mega
Wbu Luca z?
On other team no need for lader
I think on ladder it will be a monster
Like ability isin't good or bad
U sure?
Like i trust u
Gimme a sec
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Has some bulk not the best but still usable
Ig
Weak only to fire fighting and ground
My idea was to have Ttar and Steelix and others will be full meta/food mons that will help my team
So 2 weekneses for ttar and steelix
Best partner for Luca Z to hit it's weakness is Aero
You are sold on Ttar steelix basc
They cover each other pretty well
Good idea
Now we have to find 3 more
You can run both Ttar and steelix as mega
Or we can find an alternative mega that may work
Hmm
Good idea
Like... if you had to make this team now, what would be there?
Rn hmmm
Luke rillaboom is on the list ofc
Because he will be 100%, in the game
Rotom Wash or Heat prob
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Tho better 6 type match-up wise is better with whims
Hi
Yooo hi
That looks like Big 6..... idk why
Why tho
You have a Basculegion/kyoger, Salamence, "Groudon/ttar, rotom/sm######, Steelix/Kansascan, rillaboom/xernias
Idk why. It looks like big 6 to me, mabey because it looks powerfull and i didn't play back then
Looks of pokemon and meta now
The original big six have no counter beside Wolfie 🤣
https://klipy.com/gifs/mini-impact-miniimpact-1
I'm not so sure tho
Wolfe beat it with mega Rayquaza
Yea they may sound the same
But they do so much differently
For now what moves should they have? ( btw this team looks so good, I wish I could see the new lineup so we can confirm it 100% )
This 6 are confirmed coming so yea it's fine
I'll see for the moves need to confirm the moveset for Rillaboom
Like Grassy glide, Wood Hammer, fake out and U-turn
I HAVE TO WAIT
I can't Shiny hunt for other and i can't hunt for me nor train my pokemons
Probably the best set
Or go High Horsepower instead of U turn
Why can't you hunt you traveling?
Good too
Because I feel bad playing on a plane
- it will be 4 a.m
And you don't know what to do now?
Than sleep
Ye thats my plan
Or music
Or try to read ( tho sleeping will be the best )
Music into sleep
Or some movie best bet
5 hours
What
Ohhhh
9 until it starts
