Optimizing Rain Teams: VGC Pokémon Battle Strategy
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At Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments, members collaborate on high-level competitive team building. This discussion focuses on refining a rain-based team featuring Lopunny, Archaludon, and Basculegion. The community analyzes EV spreads, item choices, and tactical playstyles to help trainers improve their consistency and performance in competitive VGC battles.
Okay any thing i am missing here? Any ideas of how i can maybe get alittle extra out of this team?
Cutiepie (Lopunny) @ Lopunnite
Ability: Limber
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
Shiny: Yes
- Close Combat
- Protect
- Triple Axel
- Fake Out
Kikiyo (Archaludon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Stamina
EVs: 32 HP / 1 Def / 1 SpA / 21 SpD / 11 Spe
Calm Nature
Shiny: Yes
- Electro Shot
- Dragon Pulse
- Flash Cannon
- Protect
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 19 HP / 31 Def / 16 SpA
Calm Nature
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
- Weather Ball
- Protect
- Perish Song
- Encore
Mustard (Basculegion-F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
Shiny: Yes
- Ice Beam
- Muddy Water
- Shadow Ball
- Hydro Pump
Volcarona @ Grassy Seed
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 31 HP / 29 Def / 6 SpA
Bold Nature
- Tailwind
- Rage Powder
- Struggle Bug
- Fiery Dance
Rillaboom @ Miracle Seed
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
Shiny: Yes
- Fake Out
- Protect
- Grassy Glide
- Wood Hammer
where are you falling short?
Tbh its very solid rn, theres really no where in particular i am falling short, i just wonder if i get some fresh eyes on it, if theres something im not seeing
Like a set that may work better or an item or ev spread that could help even more then what i have
Idr see much that's badd
Tbh me either, about the only thing bugging me is i cant seem to find a way to make my bascu bulkier but im trading that off by trying to make it as fast and hit as hard as possible
is basc losing ohkos
More off my own misplays tbh
js slap a sash and go adaptability
or run swift swim
if its your own misplays then i dont think you should change basc
I already run swift swim on bascu
good point
why are we running perish on it tho
to close out endgames?
i used to do that but now i only use it IF i have a free slot
Tbh, i think im gonna switch that for like scald or icy wind
that would make sense
but in that situation why not try peli
since it gets tw wb wide guard (very valuable nowadays)
As for pelipper vs toed, i picked toed for bulk, its kinda bulkier then pelipper in most cases
peli can be bulkier i mean
But then i feel wierd having not one but two tailwind users
drop tw on volc for protect idk
Peli does give wide guard coverage
just dont run tw
i dont see the issue with 2 tws
you just have more flexibility with speed control
icy wind does the same thing but slower and only affects your opponents if they stay in
which usually after 2 drops most ppl switch out
Forcing a switch can give you better positioning, so there is nothing bad there
If you can make a prediction, it could just win the game
there are other ways to force switched i guess
but yea the point is true
I may try with peliper tbh
And i may switch out tailwind on volc for like quiver dance
Thats….kinda bad
32 SpA Rotom Thunderbolt vs. 29 HP / 31+ SpD Pelipper through Light Screen: 152-179 (92.6 - 109.1%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
thats a quad weakness... 💔💔
for a mon with questionably low bulk stats
just run sash atp
I would lowkey see if aqua jet gives you any value or a another move. You already have Muddy Water, which can miss, and hydro pump can also miss. I would try something reliable. Ik you have your Basculegion-F for sp-attck, but it would suck if it comes down to a miss
Is one thing I can see
Yea
Yea and theres no way to ev peli to live like a rock slide or a zap cannon
And see how much value does perish song gives you. You can force a switch, but that is pretty much it. Without shadow tag you really don’t threaten them that much, but maybe is just me that don’t use it. Icy wind could help as more coverage and speed control
Yea
Or even manual rain dance for an unexpected surprise if you feel silly
Yea lol
Its supposed to be adamant
