Pokémon VGC Team Building Help & Strategy Tips

Summary

At Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments, community members collaborate to refine competitive teams. This discussion covers essential VGC topics like optimizing stat spreads, selecting held items, and developing game plans against weather-based teams. It serves as a valuable resource for newer players looking to improve their reliability and performance in Masterball tier battles.

warmbeacon-46 OP

This is a team i built myself. Please let me know if i should adjust anything or replace anything. The team might be bad cause im new… im also aware the stat spreads are not good, i didnt pay much attention to it and it kind of confuses me.
Also, i later changed Corv’s stat from max atk to max def, and dragonite’s max sp atk to max atk.

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hazeljewel-78

I am also pretty new but got to Masterball last season. What I can tell u:
1. Use Megas: rn u have Gengar and Dragonite without there megas and esp. Dragonite with the lum berry... just use mega stone :)

hazeljewel-78
  1. WHat do u want to achieve? Tailwind set up body press with corv semse decent but then what? For example what would u do against swampert in Rain?
hazeljewel-78

Could u maybe tell me a bit more what your Idea was? Like what is your game plan, which pokemon would u like to use etc.

hazeljewel-78

My first clear change would be switching lum berry for mega stone and maybe switch tauros and Gengar out for something against weather teams? They seem a bit out of place to me.

warmbeacon-46 OP

Omg thanks so much

warmbeacon-46 OP

i already changed tauros to incineroar

@hazeljewel-78 I am also pretty new but got to Masterball last season. What I can tell u: 1. Use Megas: rn u have…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Yep im planning on giving dragonite a mega stone. Mega dragonite is sp atk focused, right?

warmbeacon-46 OP

I changed corv completely…no iron defense and body press anymore, they run roost and iron head now and i took away their def stat and invested in speed instead

warmbeacon-46 OP

Corv is kinda slow so i need the speed for an early tailwind

@hazeljewel-78 2. WHat do u want to achieve? Tailwind set up body press with corv semse decent but then what? For…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Im not sure…i just started and dont have much knowledge. My current goal is to build a team thats easy enough to use while also reliable enough to battle with good teams

@hazeljewel-78 Could u maybe tell me a bit more what your Idea was? Like what is your game plan, which pokemon wou…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Im not sure if i have a game plan 😭 i usually lead with corv + incin and i do what i feel is best afterwards

@hazeljewel-78 Could u maybe tell me a bit more what your Idea was? Like what is your game plan, which pokemon wou…
warmbeacon-46 OP

What pokemon i like to use? Any, really.

warmbeacon-46 OP

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warmbeacon-46 OP

These are all the pokemon i have atm (dont worry about the trial pokemon, i can always permanently recruit them)

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hazeljewel-78

for me an easy start is choosing 1 mega and then build a team around that. For the start a good idea is to not focus on trickroom but rather use tail wind. I like Whimsy for that very much but Aerodactyl is good as well. Corv is a bit to slow for my taste

hazeljewel-78

Slaping incen on there is usually not a bad Idea so if u now choose a mega u have 3 pokemon. The last should prob. focus on damage to if u use incen as support (King gambit f.e.). The last 2 slots should be a different mode. Ask yourself: What does my team struggle against rn? Then choose either a second mega or 2 very strong attackers

hazeljewel-78

For me the easiest mega to start with was charizard Y because it is also considered one of the best megas rn. Others like Raichu Y or Froslass can work but need good teambuilding around them

warmbeacon-46 OP

i dont have charizard at the moment

warmbeacon-46 OP

i have raichu mega Y

warmbeacon-46 OP

I can buy froslass mega stone if i need to

@hazeljewel-78 Slaping incen on there is usually not a bad Idea so if u now choose a mega u have 3 pokemon. The la…
warmbeacon-46 OP

what would be ur recommendation?

warmbeacon-46 OP

I just started so i cant build a 2 reliable modes on one team

hazeljewel-78

Start with Raichu Y and get Incen+ Corv on the team. Make Incen and Corv bulky with Incen Fake out parting shot protect + an Attack and Corv with tailwind iron defense body press and another attack. Raichu Y gets protect zap cannon focus Blast + Fake out or another attack or vilt switch. Last would be garchomp with raindance rock slide earthquake and Dragon claw.
For the other mode maybe try it Dragonite + Archaludon and bring garchomp with them to set up the rain for Archaludon

hazeljewel-78

For the future, try to get Charizard Y, alolan Ninetales for froslass and girafarig if u wanna play trickroom with torkol

hazeljewel-78

Does this make any sense?

@hazeljewel-78 Does this make any sense?
warmbeacon-46 OP

Yess tysm

warmbeacon-46 OP

What items, nature and stat spread would they use?

warmbeacon-46 OP

sorry if im asking too much 😅

hazeljewel-78

Nah no Problem!
Items: Corv leftovers
Incen citrus
Raichu mega
Garchomp live orb
Archaludon idk..
Dragonite mega

Stats:
Corv Bulky (max def max HP Rest in spec. Def)
Incen Bulky (max HP Rest in Def and SPD)
Raichu Speedy (SpA, Speed)
Garchomp (ATK, Speed)
Archaludon (good spread)
Dragonite (good SpA,some bulk)

hazeljewel-78

But u might need to adjust this

hazeljewel-78

Tbh Is dont know if the team is any good but I would start with this due to the limited pokemon pool u have

warmbeacon-46 OP

I just got sneasler, should i use them?

@hazeljewel-78 Start with Raichu Y and get Incen+ Corv on the team. Make Incen and Corv bulky with Incen Fake out…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Also shouldnt i use talonflame rather than corviknight? People say talonflame is a better tailwind setter

@warmbeacon-46 I just got sneasler, should i use them?
hazeljewel-78

I dont think rn but it is a very nice pokemon

@warmbeacon-46 Also shouldnt i use talonflame rather than corviknight? People say talonflame is a better tailwind…
hazeljewel-78

Try Bulky Corv with Incen Fake out. If it doesnt work u can switch to talonflame

@hazeljewel-78 Try Bulky Corv with Incen Fake out. If it doesnt work u can switch to talonflame
warmbeacon-46 OP

Okay thanks

hazeljewel-78

And start with Incen Corv or Archaludon+ garchomp

@hazeljewel-78 And start with Incen Corv or Archaludon+ garchomp
warmbeacon-46 OP

Why not gar+meg dragonite!

hazeljewel-78

I mean that to but with gar being faster then arch, u can set up rain turn 1 and get a surprise KO with Archaludon with electro shot (or what ever the signature move is called)

@hazeljewel-78 I mean that to but with gar being faster then arch, u can set up rain turn 1 and get a surprise KO…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Does electro shot have no charge if rain is up?

hazeljewel-78

yes

@hazeljewel-78 Nah no Problem! Items: Corv leftovers Incen citrus Raichu mega Garchomp live orb Archaludon idk.. D…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Like this?

warmbeacon-46 OP

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warmbeacon-46 OP

I swapped corv for talon btw

quietcomet-33

your only rain setter is garchomp

quietcomet-33

which is supposed to be ur offensive mon

@quietcomet-33 which is supposed to be ur offensive mon
hazeljewel-78

I know that it is not optimal but they dont have a real rain setter

@warmbeacon-46 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1524674770225074256/1524834370282848458/IMG_4840.pn…
hazeljewel-78

Tell me how it goes!

@hazeljewel-78 Tell me how it goes!
warmbeacon-46 OP

Its working fine!

warmbeacon-46 OP

I would say it could be better, but with the pokemon i have, that should do for now.

warmbeacon-46 OP

Thanks alot!

warmbeacon-46 OP

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warmbeacon-46 OP

Just got some rain pokemon…do i use them

warmbeacon-46 OP

I made this new team!

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hazeljewel-78

That looks like a very nice rain team!

hazeljewel-78

yeah nothing to say... nice rain team XD

@hazeljewel-78 yeah nothing to say... nice rain team XD
warmbeacon-46 OP

Thanks alot!

warmbeacon-46 OP

I swapped the dragonite for mega venusaur and meowstic for grimmsnarl.

warmbeacon-46 OP

Are there any better pokemon to relplace now?

hazeljewel-78

Dont think so :)

@hazeljewel-78 Dont think so :)
warmbeacon-46 OP

This is my final team!

warmbeacon-46 OP

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warmbeacon-46 OP

Is it good?

hazeljewel-78

The pokemon look very good! Just some thoughts:
Pelli could run damped rock (make rain last 8 turns) and Idk if Pelli needs raindance
Venusaur could run energy ball

vividwalrus-60

If you want a second mon, you could swap Grimsnarl for sableye. But Raindance on Peli is really a wasted slot. Wideguard/Protect is way better

vividwalrus-60

This was the Team I ran to MB for Inspiration.

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@hazeljewel-78 The pokemon look very good! Just some thoughts: Pelli could run damped rock (make rain last 8 turns…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Peli kinda needs rain dance imo for weather wars

warmbeacon-46 OP

Charizard Y drought is annoying

@vividwalrus-60 This was the Team I ran to MB for Inspiration. ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1524…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Thats a good team, i was wondering if i should use sinistcha

@hazeljewel-78 The pokemon look very good! Just some thoughts: Pelli could run damped rock (make rain last 8 turns…
warmbeacon-46 OP

I prefer giga drain to restore HP…idk whats more ideal though, ill change to energy ball if necessary

@hazeljewel-78 The pokemon look very good! Just some thoughts: Pelli could run damped rock (make rain last 8 turns…
warmbeacon-46 OP

I prefer giga drain to restore HP…idk whats more ideal though, ill change to energy ball if necessary

warmbeacon-46 OP

I almost never bring sneasler

warmbeacon-46 OP

I could probably change it for basculegion or sinistcha

@warmbeacon-46 Peli kinda needs rain dance imo for weather wars
vividwalrus-60

if you want a Raindance set, i'd go for sableye. it can set rain after the megaevolution but before charizard attacks, Peli rain dance eats at least one drought turn attack. Or you go parting shot grimsnarl, to switch in Peli in the same prio as sableye rain dance can happen.

@vividwalrus-60 if you want a Raindance set, i'd go for sableye. it can set rain after the megaevolution but before…
warmbeacon-46 OP

I usually rain dance the moment i see normal charizard

warmbeacon-46 OP

It usually works

warmbeacon-46 OP

Mega->drought->rain dance

warmbeacon-46 OP

On the same turn

warmbeacon-46 OP

Its not ideal but it works ig

@vividwalrus-60 if you want a Raindance set, i'd go for sableye. it can set rain after the megaevolution but before…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Second strategy probably better

warmbeacon-46 OP

I dont have sableye rn tho

warmbeacon-46 OP

I also want to replace sneasler

warmbeacon-46 OP

I never bring him

vividwalrus-60

Mega -> drought -> charizard attack -> Peli Raindance. Charizard is in a higher speed tier. but now i'm second guessing

@vividwalrus-60 Mega -> drought -> charizard attack -> Peli Raindance. Charizard is in a higher speed tier. but now…
warmbeacon-46 OP

Oh yeahh

warmbeacon-46 OP

My bad srry

warmbeacon-46 OP

I forgot

warmbeacon-46 OP

Any replacements for sneasler?

vividwalrus-60

so if you have parting shot on grimm it is:
Mega -> drought -> parting shot -> peli drizzle -> charizard attack

@warmbeacon-46 Any replacements for sneasler?
vividwalrus-60

Why would you replace it? it has Fake out pressure and threatens Faerie types and anything with fighting weakness.

@vividwalrus-60 so if you have parting shot on grimm it is: Mega -> drought -> parting shot -> peli drizzle -> char…
warmbeacon-46 OP

But i have taunt 💔

@vividwalrus-60 Why would you replace it? it has Fake out pressure and threatens Faerie types and anything with fig…
warmbeacon-46 OP

I kinda never bring it but alright

@warmbeacon-46 But i have taunt 💔
warmbeacon-46 OP

I guess ill change it for parting shot

warmbeacon-46 OP

I kinda need taunt against non-farigiraf trick room setters tho

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