Community Debate: The Ethics of Abortion | FriendZone
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The FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC server recently hosted a passionate community debate regarding the ethics of abortion. Members explored complex moral perspectives, ranging from bodily autonomy and healthcare rights to the definition of human life. This discussion highlights the diverse viewpoints within our active social community and our commitment to hosting open, albeit intense, conversations on significant societal topics.
Abortion is murder but we pretend its not and jump thru all these hoops
like if an embryo isnt a human than what is it?
Children are outside of the womb, also it's not like they're taking direct nutrients from the mother's bloodstream
wow ur just digging urself into a hole here. It literally doesnt matter dude. Its not like the mom is dying from the nutrients being taken. Also what about breastfeeding?
Well I do partly agree with this to a point, when the embryo becomes a fetus and gains organs while learning how to 'breathe'
?? A kid is actually it's own person by then no matter what disability or issues they got
The mother does choose it and by then the baby has become it's own person
An embryo is a clump of cells which haven't even fully developed, at that point it's mainly just a living organism yet hasn't fully prepared for actual life at that stage
you basically just described a child dude
Btw I do think when it grows to a fetus then it's already at a stage of becoming more than just a living organism
A child isn't just a 'living organism' lol, they've already developed to the main stage by the time of their birth
now i do think that if the woman is ever in danger it is fully understandable to do it. If the woman could die then its perfectly understandable
but i hate the idea of terminating nature's process of human life just bc some woman is all like "i dont rly wanna deal with that righ nowwwwwwww. can we just kil itt"
Usually if they're at serious risk of dying then the pregnancy is usually terminated early or near the time of the birth, for the birth tho it's usually cos the baby might not survive
I do get ur second point tho I think some exceptions should also be made like for example how it was conceived and if the woman had it without her consent (violated autonomy)
i would still much rather the baby be born and just get adopted or whatever in the second case but if she chooses abortion i still fully understand it
i dont think its fair to put the choice of killing human life in the hands of one person even if its feeding off her nutrients. However i can completly see why she would choose to abort it if ykwim
Makes tho tbh I feel she shouldn't just get rid of it early on after being scarred from wtvr happened, especially since the weight of it is more than people will probably understand
Yh I do see ur point
Depends on the situation but sometimes yeah
Also how she conceived it in the first place, and how bad her mental state is (should be medically diagnosed and severe enough)
How is it wrong then
Oh I wasn't clear, I mean stuff like SA/ grape
That's her choice if she keeps it, and he exists now to react to this which is fine
What? He's alive now, nice
I mean if it was the other way and the woman did it and got pregnant and the guy's mental state got so screwed then it should still be a choice, as long as it's in rly early stages but that's a more controversial opinion ig
IDK STOP YELLING DAMN
SMTH IS WRONG WITH U SO SHUSH
Bruv implied so far he went to Mars
You're just implying that without looking at what my view is💀
I already explained it above, you can scroll up to it
Sure, bye
Side eye
I mean the fetus isnt even fully developed into a new born child to even begin with 🤷♂️
And it's not even alive yet
it most definatly is. go do reasearch befrore u make comments like that
First of all relax no one insulted you and i don't even know you second of all if mother's life is in danger we would all agree abortion is needed or if the baby had extreme deformities that makes it's life hard to live we would agree with abortion and i don't agree with abortion whatsoever but in extreme cases abortion is needed
no def not the second one. My lil brother has down syndrome and it makes his life harder and i know tons of other ppl with disabilities through the community that my lil brother is in. He makes our lives so much better and he is a joy to be around. Idk why u think everyone would agree to murder a baby just bc its life will be hard
however i do completly agree with the mother's life in danger part. its still VERY sad that an abortion has to be done but it makes perfect sense
I was not talking about down syndrome they could live normal life's I was talking about living for example without eyes and without lungs or a heart
Not eyes
Bc most can live without eyes
if they are going to die like within days then yeah. but if they have a possibility to survive multiple years and at least have ANY life then its worth it to let them live
And yes most will agree in abortion bc it's mercy for the child
And make them live through hell?
dude. thats not the choice of the mother
Well it's oir choice to make if the kid will live hell on earth and we have the power to stop it can you imagine living with no lungs?? You wouldn't be able to even move
ok fine ykw sure those are permissable
now tell me... are those anywhere NEAR the majority of abortions?
no
no it isnt
its just ppl who didnt pull out and dont want kids