Community Debate: The Ethics of Abortion | FriendZone
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The FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC server recently hosted a passionate community debate regarding the ethics of abortion. Members explored complex moral perspectives, ranging from bodily autonomy and healthcare rights to the definition of human life. This discussion highlights the diverse viewpoints within our active social community and our commitment to hosting open, albeit intense, conversations on significant societal topics.
Not just because of the father, also the fact the mother did not want that baby
That’s incredibly cruel and messed up
Father having his children pay for his actions
Then again Not everyone has to get an abortion you're talking bout scenarios which doesn't exist. No one is going up to people and saying you deserve to be killed
That is literally what you’re saying rn
Those people are out of the womb btw, we're talking bout fetuses
Actually what you’re saying is way worse 😭
I was gonna say that you’re saying that children who are conceived of r**e can be killed so long as their mother doesn’t want them
But your take is actually far more cruel
You support this bro. Making a living person going through hell. A child who can feel pain and a fetus who cannot ? Which one is worse ?
No it's not
If the mother don't want to carry the pregnancy. I don't support giving birth then stabbing the children just because their father was a cruel person
Because you believe that they don’t even need to be conceived through r**e. You believe that the mother can just kill them solely because she wants to 😭😭
You still didn't answer this
Same people who support lindsay clancy
I told you I would need more details
What details ?
Better than being born into an abusive house, being abandon, or starving cause your parents can't afford shit
Ok so the traditional answer would be the baby of course but that doesn’t mean that the frozen embryos have no moral value which is where Im guessing you’re going
Similarly I can ask would you save a 5 year old or a 90 year old
Answer is still a 5 year old. That doesn’t mean the 90 year old has no right to life or any moral value
So your conclusion is wrong
Why the baby and not the multiple frozen embryos?
I can also flip the scenario where if we were on a spaceship and Im the last person and my goal is to preserve the human race. In which case I wouldn’t save the baby and I’d probably save the 500 human embryos
Again this one is due to age and the other one is due to the fact that one is baby and the other is a fetus
???
That’s still age 😭😭 holy are you dumb bruh
The reason it’s in the fetal stage of development is because… say it with me… age
It’s younger….
It’s both age
Wait so choosing killing a 6 yr old is better than a 4 yr old ??? No it's not
They are human beings in different stages of life because of age
You’ve said a lot of factually incorrect stuff this convo but this has got to be the funniest one
In this case the sole purpose is to preserve the human race and in my case there isn't a sole purpose so you can choose any without being forced into choosing one
Be fr, more than the age factor you thought bout a live baby suffering or frozen embryos who can't feel anything
Mostly on this server
Are you pro life or pro choice
Honestly stupid to argue with a person who supports making a child go through this when you got a better option
Sure but the analogy doesn’t make sense because idk what your conclusion is. If you’re saying I value the life of a born person more than the life of an embryo that’s true but that doesn’t mean the embryo is not valuable
In the case of abortion, unless the woman will directly die from the pregnancy, I don’t see how your baby vs embryos situation maps onto the real scenario at all lol
If the woman is in direct risk of losing her life by giving birth then yes I believe that is the exception obviously as does everyone else
So you do value the life a born person more than embryo but not when it comes to mothers 😭 so you infact know both is different and have different values
Bro your situation was about death of an embryo vs death of a born baby
If we are talking about death of an embryo vs death of a mother obviously I believe abortion is valid here
But you arent talking about that
It was to ask if you think there's difference between an abortion or straight up murder ( death of a baby)
That’s why I said your analogy doesn’t make sense here
Do you understand this 😭😭😭
I feel like you don’t understand this
You are equating a woman giving birth to her literal physical death