Community Debate: The Ethics of Abortion | FriendZone
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The FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC server recently hosted a passionate community debate regarding the ethics of abortion. Members explored complex moral perspectives, ranging from bodily autonomy and healthcare rights to the definition of human life. This discussion highlights the diverse viewpoints within our active social community and our commitment to hosting open, albeit intense, conversations on significant societal topics.
If that is your premise we do not agree
There is no way you’re a real person bruh 😭😭😭
Mental health issues due to being forced to carry a child can cause a person to sh or lead to suicide. Cases like this has also happened.
No we are talking about immediate physical death from giving birth
If she has mental health issues then that should be addressed accordingly, not by killing another human
Yk how like the rest of suicidal folks deal with their mental health problems
Doesn’t involve killing humans usually
(and if it does we put them in jail or in mental hospitals)
All this just can be just avoided by abortion.
Mental health problems
Excess trauma
Giving birth
Abusive parents
Getting abandoned in foster care
You just refuse to believe abortion does more harm than good and it's different from murdering a baby
At the expense of a human life. You are killing a human for this
Like literally physically killing a human
Im not talking about potentially harming their mental health or whatever. Like they will cease to exist in this planet
humans aren't embryos! 😄
i dont beleive that she should be expected to care for it and adoption is very much an option but its still murder.
its horrific that a human life had to start that way but it should be protected.
also u said that its the womans body. it isnt. Its INSIDE the woman's body. thats like saying that i can k*ll my kids bc they live in a house that i own and they make my life harder and bc its my house i have full autonomy over it.
its wrong
it rly rly sucks if a baby is conceived that way
but its still a baby
and its still a human. if a person loses all their arms and legs they are still human. a human embreyo is still a human. We are just saying it isnt to make ourselves feel better
ever hear of the 3/5ths compromise? literally the same thing "they arent TECHNICALLY human" just to make ourselves feel better about our crimes
Oh Man Abortion
This topic is interesting
I feel women should have a choice to be free and to do what they please and people’s body’s do matter and the labor can be a pain in the ass to begin with (Thankfully Im a Guy So I wouldnt know the pain) and Ik “Killing” is considered towards the fetus
The thing is however is like the fetus itself is not even like Pre Born into a Kid in an instant type of thing
Which makes me question like why do people bring up the religion part about this while it is an Abortion debate (Off Topic)
But then its like i dont understand what people really wants nowadays
Plus before then
Why even consider not pulling out (Adult Joke) 🤷♂️
Like S** is not taken serious a lot as people just wants to give that shit a try and then the predetermination happens and all of a sudden YOURE gonna be a Mother or a Father
Or something along the lines
The risks is no joke here
Maybe Im missing something here but idk what yall take is
But obvs me
I rather choose the Pro Choice lane any day of the week
Also please use protection bruh
you do get that people terminate pregnancies in the early stages right and not when its in the later months, right
its still a baby
the world told us that slaves werent human
that was just to make us feel better about slavery
fetuses are most definatly human
but it would be easier to deal with if they werent human
so we tell ourselves that they arent human
It wouldn't feel the pain slaves did
Not equivalent
Whatsoever
Ohhhhh. So slavery is ohk as long as there is no physical or emotional pain. It still rids them of getting to have a life but that’s FINE bc they don’t feel PAIN
Didn't say that
well then either way it not feeling pain like the slaves did doesnt matter at all in this convo
Your justifying slavery ✌️
what the heck?
thats not what i said at ALL
im saying slavery was not ONLY bad bc of the pain
im saying it was bad bc of the pain, bc of the fact that we stole peoples lives and said it was ok because someone OWNED them, the slaveowner had slave autonomy or whatever. Then we said that slaves werent technically human just to make ourselves feel better about the atrocities we were commiting
How does that even connect to abortion, embryos aren't developed
everyone convinced themselves that slaves werent TECHNICALLY humans. CHILDREN arent fully developed buddy.
Human children dont have a possiblity of becoming anything except for human adults. Human babies done have a possibility of becoming anything except human children. HUMAN EMBRYOS dont have a possibility of becoming anything except HUMAN BABIES
THEY ARE HUMANS
but it would be EASIER for US if they WERENT
so we just gaslight society into saying "technically they arent humans"
just like we did with slavery
Human babies are developed, embryos haven't even grown organs (up to 10 weeks) and the thing with slaves is much more different and had various 'reasons' (not justifying but it was just superiority and higher race ideas which doesn't connect to literal embryos)
Also it's not like the vast majority of possible parents just choose to get rid of it, there's laws surrounded abortion so the system of it doesn't get abused
this is still a human. its still stealing a life and the parents dont OWN IT.
the baby is growing inside of them but its NOT THEIR BODY. its INSIDE THEIR BODY.
It's using space inside their body, the body feeds it and keeps it alive, it's not just separate from the mother, it relys on the mother to grow and uses the energy that she makes for it
yeah so do normal children
normal children rely on their mothers
im pretty sure we cant just kill kids bc they arent as developed as adults based on the "my house my finances my rules" can we?
