Best Mega Pokémon for Fast Tailwind Teams | VGC Strategy
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is discussing optimal team building for fast-mode strategies. This thread explores selecting a second Mega Pokémon to complement a Trick Room core, specifically focusing on countering Sun and Rain teams. Members provide competitive insights on using Mega Aerodactyl and Garchomp to improve Tailwind reliability and overall match-up performance.
My trickroom mode is consisted of Mawile until Golisopod arrives so most of the team is for that plus Milotic for trickroom as Farigiraf and Incineroar are the core that come into all match ups as their are the core that hold everything while Corviknight is used for tailwind plus threatening with Brave Bird and Body press. I'm open to all of the suggestions and it need to patch up some of the worst match ups like sun teams and sometimes hard rain teams
Greninja looks like a weird piece here
With surf and no water immune only resist by milotic it's kinda awkward looking
ye i was just trying to figure out what works and its just one of the possibilities i tried
if you want a water sweeper there's obviously basculegion that you can use
Sinischa for water fire grass core
Ttar for trick room rock slide since you already have 2 steel types
I wasn't specifically looking for a water sweeper i was looking mostly for zard Y answers and generally faster megas for tailwind that match up well into zard and rain
ouh well
you can just run garchomp
it out speeds and can rock slide
I wanted to get a second mega that can outspeed and deal with them as i wanted two mega team as it feels weird not using a mega for me at least
Mega Aerodactyl can also work as a fast tailwind setter
because corviknight isn't that reliable being so slow
Fast tailwind
and stab rock slide
Glimora is also an option for dealing with Zard
I was also looking into noivern as possible tailwind setter
stab power gem resist fire and neutral to solarbeam
Tried it as well didn't match up well into ground types but i pivoted from it at the worst time as i switched to Corviknight
Will probably try it once more with tailwind support
I still say Aerodactyl would be better because it's faster
without choice specs and since you don't have a ghost type or sound proof you can't get the most out of boomburst
or maybe talonflame
Talonflame felt weird for me when i tried it on prior teams but Aero can me cool so i will probably try both to see what fits best
You have fast taunts that aren't blocked by dark types
priority tailwind
I will probably switch to mega Glimmora as she is great with coverage
Hmmm that's the part that i didn't think
More utility based talonflame never came to my mind
you can run quick guard to be safe from fake out
upper hand and will o wisps are also good
So the best set would probably be sash tailwind taunt will o wisps plus one with max speed?
i don't think you need max speed just faster than whimsicot
And glimmora would be mad spa with some speed hp
I think since you want glimora to deal with Zard it should be Max speed max spatk glimora is faster than Charizard
So would Aero or talonflame be better pairing with glimmora
wait i was looking at mega glimora stats whoops
Ouh wait we are talking about mega
man i should sleep lmao
honestly depends on which is more useful to you
with talon you can willowisp
priority tailwind
and priority blocking with quick guard/upper hand
With Aerodactyl you can Rock slide
wide guard
Faster tailwind but not priority
they both have fast taunts I believe
I think that Aero is better ad it still needs to be dealt with as it has more damage
With dual wingbit plus rock slide
Yeah i run aero as my second mega and only mega evolve him to deal with Charizard teams
but base aero still one shots assuming it doesn't miss rock slide
Hmm mega Aero as second mega sounds great
But than i still need last mon
glimora also one shots Charizard with 0 spatk investment with power gem
I mean if i add both that's double rock Pokémon in one mode
yeah
I'd say swap out cor for mega aero and add in a sinischa
Maybe mega Aero plus one would be better no
it's good for trick room
redirection
healing
matcha gotcha
But with mega Aero it wouldn't be trickroom as i have trickroom core and i was looking at maybe some a bit faster or semi fast mons
With maushold as redirection mon
Maybe tsareena as well for grass core
But it overlaps with farig
sinischa still works outside of trick room because rage powder is priority
but maushold works too
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protect/taunt
friend guard is good for more survivability
Its 111 speed so it would be faster than most threats and maybe super fang would be better as it's guaranteed 50%
since you already have coil you don't really need wide lens on milotic
a resist berry like wacan or mystic water would be better imo
or give it leftovers
I wad running wide lens as i was only clicking coil once so it's 85 for hypnosis with wide lens and muddy water was 100
That's why it still had wide lens as it makes it not as gambley
ahh
And i still missed important hypnosis that put me on back foot
But i came back as accuracy drop saved me
i mean that's the risk with hypnosis sleep also got nerfed so honestly it's not that worth it
I mean it's still annoying for tam while mawile clears
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I've been running scarf rotom wash as my water type
Trick to punish trick room
Will o wisps for garchomp and kingambits
Volt switch
and hydro pump
I was also looking into it but i didn't like the feel of it
So I i pivoted into Milotic that solo won some games
that's fair it's only as good as you can pilot it
i made mine specifically to deal with Garchomp by burning it
114 speed
Max spatk
and some hp
I was dealing with garchomp by running daz gleam glimmora
With max spa
glimora has DG?
huh
didn't know that
Yup
Was running it as coverage move
It dealt around 70%
Ahhh
i just run Sylveon lol
What about sylveon mega Aero
With bulky sylveon with calm mind
yeah it can work
i run max HP max Spatk Min speed with Hyper voice quick attack protect and shadow ball/hyperbeam
so I'm not completely cooked in trick room
I do have farig to deny trickroom so
I think calm mind with hyper voice detect plus one would be good
Yeah it can definitely work unless you're also facing tailwind probably
That's why we have trickroom if the become faster
what do you think about Sneasler plus fairy mega?
Mega floette?
Probably yes
Sneasler with rock tomo or rock slide ohko zarsy
i mean it's 2 really good mons together
they don't really have synergy besides Sneasler hitting steel that aren't named ghouldengo for super effective but they're just really strong
With what would you pair floette than
Like i said sneasler floette aren't bad
they work well together with sneasler hitting any steel types that resist floette
you could run Garchomp for ground type damage or maybe torcoal for a sun room option
you don't really need much synergy when you have hydrogen bomb
Than Sneasler with upper hand is the move
what do you think about rotom maw as the parnter for floette as i need the grass type plus it has good mathcup into zard y and it can probably beat steel types with coverage
can you give me an example of the entire team?
kinda hard to tell but mow can be fine
Maybe electro web to help floette outspeed some mons
lemme just ss the team it has sneasler rn but it doesnt feel as useful
hmmm your main problem is Charizard right and you want something else to deal with steel types?
currently sneasler deals with charizard as rocktomp ohkos but i need more answers into steel types that can at least fuck with zard
also it seems like archaludon is my worst matchup
i think you rather have rotom wash instead of milotic
i respect the gambling addiction with milotic but it's not very reliable or consistent with that set imo
milotic was always brought with mawile to be annoying as the secondary win con if left unanswered thats why its low speed and i didnt bring it into the floeete mode at all
i like running rotom with 114 speed with trick scarf so it can outspeed and burn garchomp with willowisps and you can trick the scarf away and it's usable in trick room against most none hard trick room mons
i wanted to try to make milotic work because its my girlfriends favorite mon so i wanted to ask if some other set would be better even
and do you think that sneasler is good enough for floette as it didnt feel as clean to me
sorry a little busy during these hours because i gotta get my siblings ready for school
i think rock tomb sneasler is fine but maybe you can try something like scarf klevor? or garchomp
Would you think that the same team would work for golisopod as I'm building the team for it when he arrives he will slot in for mawile
Would it also hit steel types for kleavor i mena
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it has close combat
Good enough for me
Would bulky milotic with icy wind scald be better than the current set
milotic still has scald?
huh
yeah i think that works
Scald icy wind recover plus one
Surprisingly
I'd say maybe life dew over recover
With maybe leftovers
Wasn't sure about if it had it
it has life dew
lost to one because I didn't knew it had it
now i know
So scald icy wind life dew plus one
last move probably protect or maybe whirlpool to secure kills when the enemy has bad position
What do you think about mega golisopod with this team
It wad rumored that it has though claws so as it's my favorite mon i wanted the team for it and this was it
With mawile currently taking its place for now
can't say
i have no hopes for mega gol even if rumors says it's ability is good
until it's confirmed i have 0 expectations
do you think that this team will work for it tho
if you look in the vacuum
yeah I'd say it works
its gonna be much tankier so milotic with life dew is gonna be great
and kleavor floette is gonna deal with its weaknesses
