Chandy/Skarmy Team Build Help

My first non meta pick would be mamoswine bcause its basically garchomp but immune to intimidate, buffed by snow and it still has rock slide/rock tomb

My second pick would be arcanine hisui who is like lycenrock but just better

Cleavor and Garnacle are also worth considering but garnacle can't ohko charizard and cleavor is only nuetral against fire

Skarm will need protect I assume in a heat wave riddle meta

He's fastee and one-shots Zard Y with Rock Tomb and taunt is a great counter to trick room, but I definitely miss Protect

I have one sitting in my box waiting for me to add it to any team, but this one already has two dire types... been thinking on using Dragonite as tailwind setter instead of Talon here, maybe with that I replace someone for Hisui Arc

Yes, I compell you to use dragonite

I'm feeling like changing:
Talon to Dragonite (with silk scarf for the Extreme Speed)
Ninetales to Hisui Arc (guess I would need to love Sash to him and put something else on Tsareena)

Thought about Mamoswine but I guess it would need to run Sash which is a problem

32+ Atk Dragonite Dragon Claw vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 162-192 (87.5 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

Nice

Maybe would need dragon claw to guarantee that OHKO

I don't link not having any form of weather control by losing Ninetales tho, but can't have everything

I also I thought about fitting Primarina in the team somewhere, as I've been seeing her a lot lately

just in case anyone else is online and would like to chime in

First problem is skarm wants to be in rain but chandy doesnt

He doesn't have rain tho?

Team is looking like this atm: https://pokepast.es/24b3f74be8c9328b

Pondering about replacing Taunt with Protect on Skarmory, but think I would be kinda doomed against TR

Also thought of replacing Protect for Extreme Speed on Arcanine

That's the point yes

So then why is it a problem?

Because you aren't covering the weakness with snow whatsoever

So I'm lost as to why it's the chosen weather at all

To defeat other weathers

I mean, Skarm is not afraid of Charizard and I can run Chandelure instead of Skarmory if I see fire type threats in the other team

It doesn't defeat your weakness one double up from fire and it's curtains

Rain makes more sense, is all I am saying

I think you could replace either head smash or rock slide with extreme speed instead

Maybe a support with Rain Dance? Or Pelipper as tailwind setter, but not sure if it makes much sense with the rest of the team

Also thought of putting Skarm with Tyranitar

Well switching in ninetales can benifit other pokemon like rotom and dragonite even if ninetales is weak to the sun

Ofc it can. But not as much as swapping in rain?

But chandelure is bad in the rain

Ninetales was definitely helpful in some matchups, Ill give him that. Like, very cool switching into Archaludons and having take 2 turns for Eletro Shot

So you would just be unable to use chandelure + pelipper or politoed even if you wanted to without making chandelure weaker

Is chandy required? Or there because it's not weak into the things skarm is

Chandy is there because I like it mostly lol

Fair enough.

He was the original Mega in the team, I added Skarm later

Skarm can work without mega with Sturdy too

I guess, you're saying you're on a losing streak. What is the team struggling into most?

M E G A D R A G O N I T E

Kind of what I was thinking. Drop chandy if he's there other than for personal reasons and let dnite shine here

But if you like him, we work around

I just like dragonite tbh

That doesn't sound bad, but then ill create another thread for a Chandy team lol

It's a very good mega

Until salamance comes back, then it will be a lot worse

We have a ways to go I can hope haha

By then it'll be strictly scrafty mega and Gengar for me haha

If I want to remove Skarm and focus on Chandy, what would you guys do instead? Guess I'll work on a Skarm/Dragonite team as I like the idea and haven't built a Rain team yet

But want to make Chandy work

I can still use a phys Dragonite for tailwind setter with Chandy and have a SPA for the Mega team

Oh I need a shiny for the Mega tho, love that blue color

Draco meteor, thunderbolt, dragon pulse, tailwind. Inner focus bfore mega

no protect?

No hurricane?

Maybe I go with Pelliper for tailwind and Hurricane, Thunderbolt, Draco Meteor/Pulse, Protect on Dragonite?

If you are running rain then and only then hurricane

And if you habe another tailwind setter use protect

Yes yes, will be a skarm/dragonite rain team

Then chandelure gets weakened tho

Oh wait you are talking abt a seperate rain team

I'm separating them. Need to rework a team around Chandy (and maybe another mega) and then another team ir skarm/drago

I actually have a dragonite team prepared that you can use as reference, although it doesn't have rain

Oh yes please, all up for inspiration

https://pokepast.es/b64b4aa606515504

ok hear me out... mega greninja instead of Skarmory with Chandy

I know it's not a great mega with the protean nerf tho

Will probably do a different thread for the skarm/dragonite team when I cook something there

Just thinking of other good/fun megas to replace Skarmory in the Chandelure team, or simply going Chandelure as the only Mega and run HisuiArc/Tsareena/Dragonite/Ninetales/Rotom/Chandy

well

And about Skarm/Dragonite:
https://pokepast.es/3b70b01e2bf50633

This is looking pretty solid on paper

mamoswine in rain sounds great to me

Mamoswine is rly underutilised rn tbh, it hits a lot of the meta for super effective while having a powerful priority attack

And being immune to intimidate

https://pokepast.es/47eb2287e0b31e44

Ok I'll be trying this silly Sun team as my next move to try and make Mega Chandelure happen

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2618660610-cucsi5mq2usm0y4l1x5eyafhvuqtmgmpw

I cooked here