How to Counter Delphox & Blastoise Teams | VGC Strategy
Summary
In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members discuss effective strategies for countering difficult Delphox and Blastoise redirection teams. The discussion highlights key tactical advice, including the use of priority moves, fake-out pressure, and specific team compositions to dismantle defensive setups. This breakdown provides valuable insights for players looking to improve their competitive performance and master complex matchups in the current VGC meta.
(first image is my team, second is said matchup)
any tips on facing this matchup? i find that i struggle quite a bit against this type of double redirection team, and i often dont really know what i need to do in the match. help would be very appreciated
Well
The team you're having problems against is literally made to beat yours
you just wanna focus on stopping them from moving
i find it very hard to believe that they will bring blastoise
use ceruledge to take down sinistcha and the delphox, and use your rillaboom and raichu to take down their indeedee, incin and pawmot
abuse the fact that mega delphox is vulnerable to fakeout and priority, and make smart switches and take out indeedee and sinistcha first
milotic can also be brought to defeat the incin but i just think that raichu can deal with it
i can play a couple games against you in showdown with the teams if you'd like
ig that explains my troubles then lol
Yeah even the best of the world in worlds struggled lol
Raichu raptor offense sucked into it
This version is different but follows similar uh
How are they called
Principles
extra context of the post, ive actually had a best of 3 match with a player using this team.
g1 i led staraptor (for tw) + milotic (for muddy spam) vs delphox indeedee, with raichu rilla in the back. t1 i just set tw and coil while they follow me and nasty plot, i wasnt willing to risk switching in rilla to potential heat wave. from there they just stay base delphox and spam eforce and ko everything, late game they mega to outspeed mega raichu
g2 i tried thinking the best i could vs g1 leads and went ghold + ceruledge, with raichu rilla in the back, they switched and went blastoise + indeedee. at that point i alr knew it was cooked. t1 not like i could do much else i hoped the toise is faster and goes for shell smash, i went make it rain only for it to outspeed instead and deal like a quarter and then toise shell smash, from there they just switch around with sinistcha and indeedee and its insta cooked
i see, do you know what types of teams that has a good matchup against delphox/blastoise double redirection teams? floette teams i guess?
i think bringing staraptor is a bad idea
they will lead their mega and you have to cover all options imo
Nah floette sucks against them
Uh idk it's one of the most consistent structures and will probably rise again
It's extremely hard to beat setup spam consistently
I'm actually quite surprised to not see it perform
ok, thanks alot for the insights yall
i can do practice games if need be
Start off with Milotic and Ychu, and switch either one out for Rillaboom, dual fake out and guaranteed Paralysis can cripple delphox, and Zap Cannon/wood hammer will either do most or all of Blastiose's health. Also this Delphox doesnt have any ghost coverage, so Ceruledge can do a lot of Damage, but will never be enough for an OHKO, unless you swords dance maybe
