Countering Rain Teams in VGC Team Help

Summary

Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments discussion asking for help vs hard rain teams. The announcement details struggles against Torkoal Charizard Pelipper cores, chip damage from weather wars, concerns about Archaludon and bulky threats, and options like Garchomp Dragonite or changing a mon and moves like Helping Hand or twin beam. Community input aims to improve matchups and team survivability.

snowylizard-75 OP

https://pokepast.es/eafdca3706c02574 I have been using this team. I have realised that if there are 3/4 hard rain team, it is difficult for me to get rid of them. Torkol and charizard are good for the weather wars but I end up taking too much chip damage. Am thinking if there was a better way to tackle it that maybe I am missing be it though a different play style or changing a mon.

snowylizard-75 OP

Garchomp, dragonite or any Pokemon that takes 4x from ice

snowylizard-75 OP

It is decently bulky. I am running twin beam that does not OHKO mega ganger but does around 80%. I have copied the team so am not 100% sure about the spreads. Does survive throat chop or darkest larianth from adamant inceneroar. It is also running helping hand now instead of hyper voice

snowylizard-75 OP

Also a way to hit ghost Pokemon when I mega and lose scrappy

snowylizard-75 OP

https://tenor.com/view/archaludon-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-pokemon-black-2-and-white-2-indigo-disk-gif-7337190036671130983

snowylizard-75 OP

Maybe this should help?

snowylizard-75 OP

But not sure whom to replace

snowylizard-75 OP

HALP. Rain slapping me

snowylizard-75 OP

:raichuvgc:

silvercactus-53

Well that's bad

silvercactus-53

Means the best wr you can get is

silvercactus-53

Like

silvercactus-53

3/10

silvercactus-53

Since the other 7 are rain

snowylizard-75 OP

Yes

snowylizard-75 OP

That is why I want help

silvercactus-53

What exactly do you find hard

silvercactus-53

In that mu

silvercactus-53

I think you have the tools

snowylizard-75 OP

A. Arch. If I can get zard in, arch is pressure. But in case I lose the war, it gets a electro move on me. Also with stamina, the physical attackers are pressured. But I can still deal with it

snowylizard-75 OP

But the Pelli bascu at the back, I just take too much chip damage playing weather wars with them that I might run out of juice

silvercactus-53

I do think your team is too weak to basc

snowylizard-75 OP

It is

snowylizard-75 OP

Basc and Pelli is not nice to deal with at the back

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