Team Building: Drampa TR and Weather Options

Summary

In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement covers iterative team building and testing around Drampa, Trick Room, and weather control. It discusses picks like Torkoal, Farigiraf, Hatterene, Golurk, Aggron and Aegislash plus mega options and Pokepaste links, outlining slot tradeoffs and playstyle fit for competitive VGC.

crispjester-55 OP

Need to work on this shit show of a team

https://pokepast.es/395950d83a2cc22a

crispjester-55 OP

I will steal your farig spread I saw in Kane’s thread

crispjester-55 OP

Sinistcha needs to get TR back

crispjester-55 OP

How would Drampa play into weather, it does get cloud nine

crispjester-55 OP

Would still suffer from the same issue that both mons are weak to fighting

crispjester-55 OP

Could solve that by going golurk over ttar

crispjester-55 OP

Then I miss out on weather control

crispjester-55 OP

Though milo could then be swapped for torkoal

crispjester-55 OP

Creating a new issue, as Aggron can’t go with the tortoise

crispjester-55 OP

Yeah berserk is good too

crispjester-55 OP

Still would have to drop aggron, could go drampa golurk I guess

crispjester-55 OP

They do catch each others weaknesses

crispjester-55 OP

Slow asf so benefit off of tr

crispjester-55 OP

So farig, torkoal, hatterene, golurk, drampa, and hmm

crispjester-55 OP

On which side defense or special

crispjester-55 OP

It is a special attacker right

crispjester-55 OP

Need a physical attacker that supports with TR, can drop torkoal

crispjester-55 OP

Otherwise I am too specially offensive

crispjester-55 OP

I don’t have westher yet

crispjester-55 OP

Drampa, golurk, hatterene, farig and gambit

crispjester-55 OP

Need some weather control I assume

crispjester-55 OP

Rain messes with golurk

crispjester-55 OP

Could also do drampa gardevoir mega’s

crispjester-55 OP

Drop hat

crispjester-55 OP

Go farig and gambit

crispjester-55 OP

Then need one more physical attacker in TR, prob incin

crispjester-55 OP

Or do I go
Drampa
Hat
Farig
Gambit
Aggron
Peli

crispjester-55 OP

Let’s not run dual mega with aggron

crispjester-55 OP
  • Drampa (mega)
  • Garde (mega)
  • Aegislash
  • Farig
  • Incin
  • Gambit
crispjester-55 OP

I think this might do quite well actually, aegislash can cover both mega teams

crispjester-55 OP

Though I do miss my sinistcha

silvercactus-53

It is bad it ain't amazing

crispjester-55 OP

I thought she got slower lol

crispjester-55 OP

I see she does not, my bad

crispjester-55 OP

Guess sinistcha could get back

silvercactus-53

I've used it quite a bit lmao

silvercactus-53

https://pokepast.es/7d29f49c91ec4248

silvercactus-53

Had been running that

crispjester-55 OP

Now that I removed the garde, I literally made your team...

crispjester-55 OP

And I didnt even look at it 😭

silvercactus-53

Huh wtf

silvercactus-53

I'll pass

crispjester-55 OP

This was what I got

crispjester-55 OP

https://pokepast.es/044ad20fadadc7e4

silvercactus-53

This isn't classic drampa

crispjester-55 OP

I forgot

silvercactus-53

Yeah

crispjester-55 OP

mb

silvercactus-53

Please add a fourth move on torkoal

crispjester-55 OP

No XD

crispjester-55 OP

I'll give it earth power

crispjester-55 OP

This core is fine it is just the rest

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2593755667

crispjester-55 OP

milo is way too fast actually, not ttar

crispjester-55 OP
crispjester-55 OP

Incineroar @ Chople Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 32 HP / 8 Atk / 10 Def / 16 SpD
Careful Nature
- Throat Chop
- Fake Out
- Flare Blitz
- Parting Shot

Aggron @ Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 23 HP / 1 Atk / 10 Def / 32 SpD
Impish Nature
- Heavy Slam
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Protect

Sinistcha @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Hospitality
EVs: 32 HP / 10 Def / 2 SpA / 22 SpD
Quiet Nature
- Matcha Gotcha
- Life Dew
- Rage Powder
- Trick Room

Tyranitar @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 24 HP / 32 Atk / 1 Def / 9 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Knock Off
- Rock Slide
- Brick Break

Farigiraf @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpA
Quiet Nature
- Twin Beam
- Protect
- Helping Hand
- Trick Room

crispjester-55 OP

I am planning to go bulkier on ttar so it survives a cc from sneasler, which means chople over mega stone

crispjester-55 OP

Dropped the milotic, I still think it is too fast, might come back on that if I cannot find a decent spattacker for this team (suggestions are welcome)

crispjester-55 OP

Might take a sylveon actually

crispjester-55 OP

Something like this might work

crispjester-55 OP

https://pokepast.es/743762cb70933071

crispjester-55 OP

Second option to keep water on the team

crispjester-55 OP

https://pokepast.es/d81fb4fd83366356

crispjester-55 OP

I do miss the burn from milo

crispjester-55 OP

https://pokepast.es/b28d1dc4988a01d5

crispjester-55 OP

Optimized EVs

crispjester-55 OP

this is what I am testing tomorrow and a variant with sylveon

crispjester-55 OP

That one is above

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2596525763-1lyaoniy7ls8ls7dd319bdok3gsimthpw

crispjester-55 OP

lol

royalcloud-73

Aggron holding on for dear life

crispjester-55 OP

I am still struggling hard into sun

crispjester-55 OP

Gambit threatens ttar

crispjester-55 OP

And he does it a bit too well

crispjester-55 OP

same for basc

crispjester-55 OP

jolly sneasler is now tankable with the new EVs

royalcloud-73

Does none of the mons learn rain dance

crispjester-55 OP

primarina I guess, but keep in mind they are all slow asf when TR ends

crispjester-55 OP

So when I have a bad lead, the card house collapses

royalcloud-73

But, you're bringing prima against sun anyways yes?

crispjester-55 OP

no

crispjester-55 OP

ttar, incin, aggron and farig

royalcloud-73

Hm

royalcloud-73

Then why is it there

crispjester-55 OP

Honestly? Cause I can't determine a sixth mon lol

crispjester-55 OP

Tried milo, loved the burns, but it was a bit too fast for TR

crispjester-55 OP

I need a special attacker, as my TR setters are the only spattackers, but they have low investments

royalcloud-73

Could try araquanid

royalcloud-73

Over prima

crispjester-55 OP

that is physical again tho, and farig isnt there to deal damage anymore with the current spread

crispjester-55 OP

Cause I actually have considered it multiple times lol

royalcloud-73

Hmmmm

royalcloud-73

Then I would go slowbro

royalcloud-73

Secondary tr plus special

royalcloud-73

Decent base bulk

royalcloud-73

Another sneasler check

crispjester-55 OP

Why are we considering the same mons each time, the issue with that one, was that I had to drop sinistcha or farig, otherwise I have three TR setters

royalcloud-73

Or you could just change out tr on sinistcha

royalcloud-73

And keep it for support+healing

royalcloud-73

Eh but then you'd have to commit to only having either one setter or run two into a bad matchup to be safe

royalcloud-73

Hm

crispjester-55 OP

Yep, this would be the spider

crispjester-55 OP

Araquanid @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Bubble
EVs: 32 HP / 21 Atk / 12 Def
Brave Nature
- Liquidation
- Bug Bite
- Wide Guard
- Protect

royalcloud-73

Empoleon?

royalcloud-73

It gets the same boost as milotic

royalcloud-73

Is special

royalcloud-73

Fits tr

royalcloud-73

That's the only other special water Mon I can think of that would fit the slot

crispjester-55 OP

Have to look into it and its speed stat

royalcloud-73

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royalcloud-73

Just threw a few moves in there

royalcloud-73

Not saying run that set

royalcloud-73

Abt 20 points lower than milotic speed

crispjester-55 OP

Another 72 speed

crispjester-55 OP

Same as Ttar and farig

royalcloud-73

Hits harder too

crispjester-55 OP

And about as bulky I guess

royalcloud-73

Just add a single point so it goes after

royalcloud-73

Or vice versa

royalcloud-73

Worth a shot

crispjester-55 OP

I am more a coinflipper XD

royalcloud-73

I'm trying to think of literally any other and I'm drawing a blank

royalcloud-73

That also works lmao

crispjester-55 OP

I will test with spiderman and pengu

royalcloud-73

Yeah I'd try empoleon

royalcloud-73

Water steel typing is good as well

crispjester-55 OP

I had the same, there are only so many options we can try

crispjester-55 OP

Though this typing is neutral in all zards moves which is nice

crispjester-55 OP

no supereffecitve solarbeams

crispjester-55 OP

It doesnt really get special water moves huh

crispjester-55 OP

Either surf or water pulse

crispjester-55 OP

It does get vacuum wave prio

crispjester-55 OP

I guess this

crispjester-55 OP

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Competitive
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 SpD
Quiet Nature
- Flash Cannon
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Protect

royalcloud-73

Looks good to me

crispjester-55 OP

Let's see how far the SD climb goes

crispjester-55 OP

First game

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2596579863

crispjester-55 OP

I already see why I didn't go empoleon, it makes me even more weak to fighting

royalcloud-73

Straight ff lmao

royalcloud-73

I mean yeah

royalcloud-73

But

royalcloud-73

If you fight sun

royalcloud-73

I don't think you will have to worry much

crispjester-55 OP

No, fair, but sneasler hits through my team now XD

royalcloud-73

Farig hits through sneasler 😂

crispjester-55 OP

Fair

crispjester-55 OP

I will try a few more over the course of a few days

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2596581598

crispjester-55 OP

For now, off to bed in an hour, so no more pokemon if I want to sleep (probably will continue on phone anyway)

royalcloud-73

I mean it worked well there

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597040214

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597043493-akdyj15hll3jbhtbbfdib0ln7o19xappw

crispjester-55 OP

Internet doesnt let me play each game lol

crispjester-55 OP

I guess I like it for now hehe

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597050899

crispjester-55 OP

Plays nicely into zard

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597148666

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597193491

royalcloud-73

Hell yeah

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597204498

crispjester-55 OP

Dropped to around 1300 to see if I can climb the ladder from a lower point, there is more variety there hope to see some mega venusaur

crispjester-55 OP

game 1

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597390321

crispjester-55 OP

game 2

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597397278

crispjester-55 OP

game 3

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597404526

crispjester-55 OP

game 4

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597410055

crispjester-55 OP

game 5

crispjester-55 OP

ff on my side fucked up by letting primarina calm mind, no way of getting it down anymore

silvercactus-53

Road from 1300?

silvercactus-53

W

crispjester-55 OP

?

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597420864

silvercactus-53

Like seeing how high you can get

crispjester-55 OP

Not high lol

crispjester-55 OP

1303, prob max

crispjester-55 OP

Issues:
- No good way to deal with mega venusaur
- Rain sucks, sinistcha is the only decent mon in this team against those teams

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597423666

silvercactus-53

Paste?

crispjester-55 OP

The team

crispjester-55 OP

https://pokepast.es/276a300a2182dedc

silvercactus-53

You really wanna use maggron

silvercactus-53

And no sinistcha

crispjester-55 OP

Sinistcha is in the team or what do you mean

silvercactus-53

Didn't loaf

silvercactus-53

Load

silvercactus-53

Oops

crispjester-55 OP

XD

silvercactus-53

You really wanna use aggron

crispjester-55 OP

yeah, I should be able to make him work

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597428521

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597440588

crispjester-55 OP

armor tail i guess

crispjester-55 OP

this was clean

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597444528

crispjester-55 OP

fake tears didnt do anything for some reason

crispjester-55 OP

match like this

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597446547

crispjester-55 OP

didnt take sinistcha here, that was my bad, but still TR ended and I hadnt won so no shot I was winning

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597449836

crispjester-55 OP

?

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597455761

crispjester-55 OP

I don’t think this is the way

crispjester-55 OP

Also

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597474377

royalcloud-73

Then we go back to thinking

royalcloud-73

The problem is we def need an answer into fire

royalcloud-73

And into ground

royalcloud-73

Which is only water without moving your mega to mega rupt

royalcloud-73

Have we tried just base Blastoise?

crispjester-55 OP

Nah, for some reason everything feels of, could also be a me issue

crispjester-55 OP

Making continous misplays, failing to get TR up, misreading opponents

royalcloud-73

Yeah that takes a part into it as well

crispjester-55 OP

I think I need to take a longer break for a change

crispjester-55 OP

Haven’t even been enjoying playing on SD

crispjester-55 OP

Guess I am not taking a break

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597555240

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597561034

royalcloud-73

Lmao

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597568018

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597569722

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597576907

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597578537

crispjester-55 OP

Back at 1300 after tilting

crispjester-55 OP

if you got time, give this idiot some feedback on his stupid moves :D

royalcloud-73

You are leaving farig in for a very long time

crispjester-55 OP

Yeah, you have a point there

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597877781

crispjester-55 OP

why

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597880837

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2597882964

crispjester-55 OP

Tailroom testing

crispjester-55 OP

https://pokepast.es/c0ff7387026a16d5

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2598438130

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2598440414

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2598441942

silvercactus-53

Man

silvercactus-53

Atp

silvercactus-53

Why not just give up aggron

silvercactus-53

😭

crispjester-55 OP

Haha

crispjester-55 OP

He is there for mental support

silvercactus-53

Just do msciz atp

crispjester-55 OP

Mcsiz?

silvercactus-53

You got gengar tho

silvercactus-53

No need for that either

silvercactus-53

Scizor

silvercactus-53

Just slot basc

silvercactus-53

And go politoed over peli

silvercactus-53

And you got a perish rain

silvercactus-53

I should try that

crispjester-55 OP

Definitely not playing perish

silvercactus-53

Gamer con perish arc incoming

crispjester-55 OP

I bring ideas to you cause I don’t want to drop aggron lol

crispjester-55 OP

But yh

crispjester-55 OP

Aggron aint doing jackshit anymore

silvercactus-53

Just do the fucking

silvercactus-53

Blasto teams

silvercactus-53

If you want tailroom

crispjester-55 OP

It isn’t that I want tailroom just wanted to try some shit

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2598450544-dwsgsmmwfemry3qi1sc9056409p41evpw

crispjester-55 OP
crispjester-55 OP

WALL VALUE

crispjester-55 OP

😂

crispjester-55 OP

Back 1300 after tilting to 1100 💀

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2598453773-oykyjxni2oqoriuwviymuk8tndxbhlrpw

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2598469790

crispjester-55 OP

Alright alright

crispjester-55 OP

I stopped with the aggron shizzle

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2599368519

silvercactus-53

Finally

crispjester-55 OP

Hahahahaha, it’s setup need and special defense are getting him kicked off sadly

crispjester-55 OP

Physical team? Ez, otherwise 💀

crispjester-55 OP
crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2599827941-d0a6u0vh06m4kjthmirop3il8ftxukfpw

crispjester-55 OP

Apparantly the team is intimidating

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2599852357

crispjester-55 OP

BLizzard

royalcloud-73

I am actually cooking

crispjester-55 OP

Gotta get used to this though

crispjester-55 OP

W/L ratio is bad for now haha

crispjester-55 OP

Might start a second champions account and see where I end up

crispjester-55 OP

I am also thinking of another way to utilize aggron, building a speedy team capable of clearing all special threats, to have Aggron mop the floor with the physical mons

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2601268937-ui8h7wrdsll647os0dfsjtlekkj97i1pw

royalcloud-73

Is working

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2601271130

crispjester-55 OP

Yep, gotta swap a lot for positioning, but that ain’t an issue

crispjester-55 OP

Piloting this is still difficult tho haha

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2601388268

crispjester-55 OP

this one was fun 😂

crispjester-55 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2601390268-r8c45l8n33gisgls6ccd9yf91b8pdx3pw

crispjester-55 OP

Bulk up + TR into instruct combo’s

crispjester-55 OP

I got a fancy title upgrade hmm

royalcloud-73

How is the team coming doha?

crispjester-55 OP

Tbh I have been so busy that the last showdown match I sent is the last time I played

royalcloud-73

I felt that. Taking a break until season 2 myself

crispjester-55 OP

Yh, might have to do the same, can't find any time hehe. School, work and life is taking 95% the last 5% goes to sleep

crispjester-55 OP

You did try some TR teams right?

royalcloud-73

Yes

crispjester-55 OP

How did that go?

royalcloud-73

Eh

royalcloud-73

It wasn't bad but it wasn't great either

crispjester-55 OP

So no more TR for you for now

crispjester-55 OP

😂

royalcloud-73

Nope lmao not until I get a few more items to work with

crispjester-55 OP

Then they should make mega aggron be able to hold AV

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