Fake Perish Trap Discussion: Gengar & Incineroar
Summary
In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement dives into a controversial 'fake perish trap' team featuring Gengar and Incineroar. The thread discusses item and nature choices, sash on Whimsicott, Sunny Day uses, calc results for +DEF Gengar, crit risks, and playstyle implications for VGC team building and mind games.
Just… look at the sheet… I guess.
What makes this “fake perish trap” instead of “using Mega Gengar normally”
Because incin + gengar almost always means perish trap
Fair
Plus perish trap has just become what “mega gengar” Normally does
Its max defense
Its for sneasler
Yeah kebia is bad
What item on whims then
Nasty plot is like the whole point
People play passive in front of gengar + incin
Oh wait i do lmao
I mean you could run a positive defense nature on it instead of Modest? I’m assuming that’d do the job?
At one point basc had ot
Or sash lol
I calced, +def still is 31% to ohko
Damn
sashed whims
Any other comments?
50% crit on psycho cut and leaf blade
Why Sunny Day on Whim? I feel like shutting down Zard’s sun with rain would be more useful than stopping rain/sand/snow
Sunny day max attack incin flare blitz kills EVERYTHING neutral
Oh
Didn’t see you maxed out attack there
Carry on
I am confused as to how this is fake perish and not just standard offensive Gengar
Hyper offensive incin
Why
Much better mons that do it
He’s really fun to play with
But the mind games
also who
Fire offensive intimidate with fake out? Infernape is a name to throw out
Ape gets intimidate?
Showdown says he doesn’t
Showdown says hidden ability is iron fist
Who TF am I thinking of then
Idk lmao
Hisui arcanine
But no fake out
Nvm ignore me
Idefk why I mixed the two
Hyper offensive incin is good
Also I prefer the dark coverage
Cuz clickbait so more people look at the team
Hyper offensive incin is eh
This isnt general
Its funny because it looks like perish
It doesn't tho
No second singer to make them guess
Sash gambit wtf
Nvm it lived on 1
Invisible sash
Just looks like offensive Gengar if I saw the Mon list
Then what second singer can I add?
Prim is a common one
Poli is second
That would make me think perish if I saw either of those two
Don’t want poli with offensive incin
So prim
Prim would be your answer then
Instead of who
Gallade probably
Gallade id think
Tink is def odd
Encore mon
And he’s cool
You alr have that. Whimsicott
Yeah both the tink and gallade slot feel meh
Gonna cut tink for prim and try to find something instead of gallade
sneasler tech
got a prim set
Can you move this to #💬｜chat 😭
This isn’t chat 😭
Lmao
remade team, now its really fake perish
Prim is evd to outspeed base 130s under tailwind
Wdym primarina
Oh shit I’m giving prim 1 more speed since it ties delphox rn
Under tw
Just move later
It can’t do much to prim
Ts guy doesnt exist
And cc on incin
Nasty plot since they like protect arch t1
Especially when predicting singing
New primarina evs
Outspeed mega lopunny and below under tw, max hp since low base hp, and the rest is dumped in spatk
I want speed for the tw interactions
I just personally like outspeeding a lot with tailwind
Bump
Isn’t this the team wolfey made with toast?
No, I built this myself. If someone else made it, its a coincidence
