Mega Lucario Z & Staraptor VGC Team Building Guide
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Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community collaborates on a competitive team featuring Mega Lucario Z and Staraptor. This discussion covers strategic adjustments, including weather control, Tailwind support, and replacing core members to counter common threats like Charizard. Members share insights on reaching Master Rank and provide optimized team sheets for high-level competitive play.
wanted to make a team with Mega Lucario Z and the birb
This is what im working with so far.
https://pokepast.es/050d023c4898dcce
Any Ideas is appreciated gang lets cook 
Birb
He really wants to keep both megas so trying to fill gaps where possible. Not 100% happy with the zard matchup here.
Its doable but theres no easy answer.
Ceruledge is prolly the easiest to change.
Maybe Harcanine or sum shii
Issue is running dual fighting
Yeah it really throws you. Salamence would fit staraptors role better
Keeps the tailwind option and allows you to hit pretty much the same stuff but more.
Ill run some games on ladder after work and see if I can cover for the weaknesses of the megas
I been using Raichu Y
And I got to Master Rank just not too long ago
what if I used Vivillon as a tailwind setter
Just spitballing
Here’s the current team
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This is after applying your recommended changes
This team works so well together excellent weather control, hard hitters who do their job as well as universal support for almost any situation
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Any chance you can stop sending the pretty pictures and just normal team sheets
The team is on the trainer card I made
Mega stones on Lucario and Tyranitar that’s obvious enough for Indeedee she has a Rocky helmet, Sinistcha Leftovers, Choice scarf Hisuian Arcanine with Rock Head ability and finally a focus sash for Excadrill
It has Dragon Dance but don’t know if or what to replace it with
Gotcha I’ll be sure to give it low kick
I’m glad you think so cus I put a lot of thought into it
Understood thx for the support I’ll begin training tomorrow can’t promise the tournaments tho cus I might sleep in or forget
Speaking of sleep I should go to bed cus it’s past 2am for me
Can you maybe show the others my new team build I want their thoughts if that’s ok
Way ahead of you
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I thought so too but I was suggested terrain pulse to deal with Pokemon like sneasler and Gengar
I also considered nasty plot as well for extra power
Don’t know what to replace tho
Nasty is nice id rather get the quick set up but calm mind works too
Nasty better then calm 😉
The Yaichu is a good replacement.
If we add a tailwind setter now we would have to drop Sylvie or something.. do you find speed a problem?
Sometimes
Yeah I can’t sleep
It’s hard to find a good tailwind setter that isn’t a mega
It’d ultimately mean I’d have to swap my weather control to something that won’t damage volcarona and make it extremely tanky
I could use Alolan Ninetales as well as Baxcalibur
I’m starting to not like Indeedee on the team
So I swapped to Rillaboom
And I’m officially stumped again
An hour ago you said you can’t believe how good your team is
That’s a very big switch up
May I ask what happened ?
I like the Yaichu idea, he helps cover zard and flying types. Removes the need for harcanine imo
Sand is cool but if you can ohko the zard with Yaichu then weather control is pretty unnecessary imo.
Same with rain you can clear all your threats under rain.
This frees up half the team.
https://pokepast.es/aabd7071edb56bcb
If i were to use Yaichu id do something like this
Exploited too much or skill issue on my part
just speaking hypothetically could this team work with Mega Absol Z as well or no
Instead of who? Raichu or lucario?
Raichu
Or is Raichu a necessity
Cus something I been seeing a lot of is psyspam and it’s been crushing me
And this team seems to have a terrible match up with it