Mastering VGC: Optimizing Wolfe's Team for Goli & Chomp
Summary
In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members are actively collaborating to refine competitive team builds. This discussion focuses on overcoming specific meta threats like Goli and Scarf Garchomp by testing replacements for Sneasler and Indeedee. It highlights the community's dedication to high-level strategy and team optimization for serious VGC players.
https://pokepast.es/30a4d7143a71a4df wolfes team really inspired me but i think indeedee sneasler need to be replaced to help vs goli but idk
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You already have room heat to do 4× damage to goli and a sand setter to remove rain which protects against fire.
What more do you need?
You can even hard counter trick room by using indeedee to seal off others TR.
If you give out protect or mystical fire
The thing is
You're abysmal into scarf chomp rn
I wanted to run this but chomp counters hard
Plus Zard Y i forgot
I disagree
How am i weak to yard
I want mons better imto goli imo
Wolfe literally struggled imto it
Entire team is weak to it
If its horn drill
dril lrun
Wtvr
Nvm thought it was indeedee-f forgot about ttar
Ye
Its goli and scarf chomp that's stopping me from using this team
Chomp threatens sneas, damage on ttar, sceptile, etc
He just leads way too good into wolfe's team
I just can't crack the goli code
Ye im tryna figure out how to replace sneas + deedee while doing good imto those
Im using jjs team rn till i can figure out wolfs team
Problem is theres nothing really that answers goli well outright replacing sneasler
Well idm replacing sneasler + deexde
Yeah but with who right thats the annoying part
Offensive incin time
😭
Nah
Support incin over deedee tho
Then ur extra weak to fighting
Only issue
Support incin is fine but yeah fighting weakness is just not it
Disregarding even garchomp
I genuinely cant imagine how this team hits goli
Honestlyyy?? Volcarona, hisui arc
Volc is a possibility ngl
I like volc
Cus it doesnt need sash or scarf like arc
Issue is it doubles fire
I thought about pult
Im ngl
Atp fire punch t tar
Pult doesnt even ohko
Nvm it does
I forgot lorb
32 SpA Life Orb Dragapult Flamethrower vs. 32 HP / 2 SpD Mega Golisopod: 192-229 (105.4 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
32+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Golisopod Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 8 Def Dragapult: 148-176 (90.7 - 107.9%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO
Ive been thinking about volc
For awhile ngl
You kind of have to make a sacrifice and run it sadly to make it work
Thoughts
I thought that too but no Ohko
Still you can survive leech life
Honestlyyy
Cus wolfe's was evd
I think this could go in for sneasler
So clearly you can do 2 punches
Probably issue is you lose terrain control when dropping deedee
And you are not picking up rilla
I kinda want another mon with consistent fire damage
Yeah but feels like a waste when you need to conserve ttar for weather mostly
So volc works
I mean in end games it works because of your inability to kill it
Also uh
Hits rilla so thats cool
And dengo
Ig
Also ttar loves low kick for potential gambits
But like
Ye
True
And arch is rising
My friend lost his rilla ro it
Idk if i can even throw terrain on this team
Yee
Do we have any idea wolfes ev spread
If it was bulk or 32
Yeah but looking just from an overall view
You're getting fire punch value in those endgame turns but not early on
Imo ill just try volc pilt
Im calcing fire punch into everything and it isnt
Looking great
For ttar?
I think its bulky ttar
Might have def investments
How much did leech life do again
See how it goes
97
97%?
Yeah he had 8 evs in hp
Ye it lived on 3%
He calc'd it to live one leech life
32+ Atk Tough Claws Golisopod-Mega Leech Life vs. 8 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 152-182 (83 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO - (41.7 - 50% recovered)
Any special bulk Maybe
Didnt see enough ttar into spatkers tho
Uhhh probably went full atk and speed
Maybe
Probably
But wolf prob put some special bulk
Wait we can literally check this
His video
How much hp ran
Yeah
I forgor
He didnt show his spreas
But HP might genuinely just be this
Lemme check
How much hp is 8 invested
183
32- SpA Tyranitar-Mega Fire Blast vs. 32 HP / 2 SpD Golisopod-Mega: 156-184 (85.7 - 101%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Man
No i meant special bulk.
Trust frfr
Man wolfe changed his video thumbnail
It sucks now
Prolly cause he lost
Ikik
It was sceptile scaring away raichu X and Y
Hes 177
Ye ath
Wth
32+ Atk Tough Claws Golisopod-Mega Leech Life vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 152-182 (85.8 - 102.8%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO - (41.7 - 48.9% recovered)
How?
Oh he just got low rolled
Maybe def investment
He genuinely might just be running max max atk spe
Because its mega ttar aswell
True
And phys bulk wont help against sneasler anyways
True
Its just max max and he lived a low roll leech
Maybe its like
Def invested a lil
32+ Atk Tough Claws Golisopod-Mega Leech Life vs. 0 HP / 9 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 146-174 (83.4 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO - (40.1 - 47.8% recovered)
I dont see the point tbh
True but ur not putting 2hp cus we know its 2hp
With 2hp evs he lives on 3 hp
2HKO Anyways
I just think it might be support volcarona and dpult
To swap with
I believe its max max ttar
Same with sceptile and Rotom
Rotom might be bulkier
Rotom is 138 hp
Scep is 14-
So rotom has to be bulkier
Ye its 13 hp
Maybe but i was spitballing cause scarf rotom
Where'd you find
Wolfes vid the rotom is 138 hp
Justin tangs recreation is 127
Oh sweet
Ye
His rotom was timid right
This would honestly be simpler if we didnt have to snap scarf onto rotom
Has to be to outspeed megas
20 timid is 207
No it becomes easier wym
If somehow he didn't need scarf
God that would be just perfect
For rotom?
Yes
Yeah
It outspeeds everything in the game with timid
With scarf
Timid 30 evs spe
32+ Atk Mega Tyranitar Rock Slide vs. 13 HP / 12 Def Rotom-Heat: 108-128 (78.2 - 92.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
Too much wasted
No need
True
Imma continue tmrw i gotta schleep
Ok
See ya
https://pokepast.es/9729ae7a9dae8b7d
Other than the 2 recurring fire types
Looks good tbh
Only problem is terrain control
Rilla glides and now psyspam
Did you playtest it
Ye
How's it going
Jolly ttar better no?
Why adamant
Idk i just threw that max max evs
Throw jolly on
Honestly we Cooked
This team is working
Idk if we need tailwind on volc at all
Almost All of them every meta threat
I like it
Hmmm
He really went max max on almost everything
Get it
Nvm
What the fuck
I genuinely don't know
Trickroom, ZardY, Whims are annoying ass matchups
Ehh
I disagree
Tr i see can
