Metagross Swampert Rain Team Preview

i’m running a very similar team to this. have you considered sinistcha to operate in TR with healing and redirection support as well as a way to turn off TR?

i took screens off my team and ran a bulkier rain setter(politoed) and put iron defense instead of iron head

on metagross

made room for sinistcha and put more survivability overall

Between screens and healing I definitely don't need both, so I would replace Sableye over Sinistcha

Will think more about it, thanks for the suggestion!

idk if you’ve tried big root, but big root strength sap can heal sin from like 5 to fill off a physical attacker

Woah, I haven't tried big root yet, didn't even buy the item

Will look into that

unfortunately it doesn’t work with life dew, but still insane for keeping sin alive. Good luck!

scarf arc?

it works well?

So far so good! Probably probably don't expect it it hitting so hard right away lol

And Sturdy works well with it

Ok how crazy would be something like this so I can have Rain Dance, Trick Room and healing from the same mon:

Aromatisse @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Healer
Level: 50
EVs: 31 HP / 3 SpA / 32 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Moonblast
- Heal Pulse
- Rain Dance
- Trick Room

I'm also thinking on just screwing healing and screens and go aggressive Farigiraf with Rain Dance

But I do think it's important thst I have a secondary Rain setter but I also want to have an option against Trick Room

My farig is able to 2 shot most opponents

Ya want that?

Yes please! Sounds great

Farigiraf @ Life Orb
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
EVs: 29 HP / 4 Def / 32 SpA / 1 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Thunderbolt
- Trick Room
- Protect

If ya want something that is on the bulkier side, ask wahhh

Life Orb Hyper Voice goes brrrr

Very cool, will try it

Have you considered toxicroak over sneasler

I know it's now as fast but it has bulk and heals in the rain

Everytime I think of rain I think of Toxicroak, but I always assume it's just a worse Sneasler so I end up running Sneasler

The Sash Poison Touch set is really fun so far

Funny enough I just got the gold medal achievement for winning 100 battles with Sneasler

It's the goat

This team is super strong and consistent so far, the matches I'm losing are super close

I will want to try and test other teams though but guess I'll try climbing with this one at some point

Not been using Metagross much tho, Swampert is being the primary for sure

Came back to this team recently as I think it's the most strong and well rounded team I made this season so far but that last Farig spot still feels clunky. I tried making her bulkier and removing Hyper Voice to add Protect (Thunderbolt is her only attack now) but it still feels weird. It's clunky to have her set Rain Dance while moving after all other mons with the low speed. She was easily ko'ed if opponents doubled down on her turn 1 without the bulk.

I'm now testing Life Orb Mimikyu with Play Rough/Shadow Sneak/Rain Dance/Taunt as my anti-TR + secondary Rain Dance setter.

The extra Fairy and Ghost coverage are also very welcome to the team

Let's see how it goes

Metagross rain is always cracked haha

About Archie: I went to Dragon Pulse after missing Draco twice in a row 😭

Also will probably go with Thunderbolt instead of Electro Shot as it's been twice today that I saw myself in a situation of having Archie without rain in endgame

my Archie is Choice Scarf Sturdy though

I find the usual set quite boring to play and easily predictable

Weather war is very very annoying with Zard Y setting sun simply by mega-evolving and Prankster Tailwind from Whimiscott 💀 Turns 1 and 2 are always an annoying mind game

Coaching Sneasler + Mega Swampert just goes nuts

I think the team already has a really strong idea, so I wouldn’t change the Pokémon. I’d just clean up a few sets.

1. Archaludon’s Scarf set should be more consistent.
   I’d run Electro Shot, Thunderbolt, Dragon Pulse, and Flash Cannon. Electro Shot is great when rain is up, but Thunderbolt gives you a real Electric move when rain disappears. I’d drop Snarl and Steel Beam because they feel awkward to lock into.
2. I’d test Taunt on Sneasler over Dire Claw.
   This is probably the cleanest Trick Room fix without changing the team. Sableye can’t reliably Taunt Farigiraf because of Prankster being blocked, but Sneasler’s Taunt still works. You lose Dire Claw cheese, but it helps a lot into Trick Room.
3. Metagross should probably run Thunder Punch over Body Press.
   Body Press doesn’t feel amazing without Iron Defense or a heavier Defense spread. Thunder Punch gives Metagross better pressure into Pelipper, Basculegion, bulky Waters, and rain mirrors.
4. I’d make Sableye a bit more physically bulky.
   Since it already has Light Screen and rain weakens Fire damage, I’d want it to take physical hits better. Its job is mostly to get rain back up and set screens, so surviving those early turns matters more than doing damage.
5. I’d test Sitrus Berry on Pelipper over Damp Rock.
   Damp Rock is nice, but in weather wars, Pelipper staying alive is usually more important than extra rain turns. Sitrus gives it more chances to reset rain, Tailwind, or Wide Guard.

Overall, I’d keep the same team idea: use Pelipper and Sableye to control rain, Sneasler to Fake Out and Coaching, and Mega Swampert as the main win condition. The main fixes are just making the team less awkward when rain disappears or when Trick Room is threatened.

Thing is it doesn't matter

Even if it's predictable it's usually just completely safe lmao

Boring? Hell yeah it is, that's why I don't play rain :P

Yep yep, I know it's the better and stronger option, but too boring to play

The rest of the rain team is fun tho, so trying a different approach

If only my Swampert stopped missing his High Horsepowers...