Building a Weird Sun Team: VGC Strategy & Discussion
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The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is buzzing with a new, experimental Sun-based team build. This discussion explores a unique synergy between Charizard, Armarouge, and Venusaur, utilizing Trick Room and Psyspam mechanics. Community members are actively debating the viability of bulky Venusaur sets and Growth versus Sleep Powder, providing a great look at the creative side of competitive VGC team building.
hey i just made this weird team. im pretty sure its not good lmao, i want thoughts on the team.
https://pokepast.es/0ebf3df6766a29fb
Idea is basically Zardy with sun boosted Armarouge heat wave + Expanding force combo with mega gard and indeedee F. It has a trick room mode and Zardy likes trick room when there are faster mons like Yaichu or Zchomp. Psychic seed sneasler works well with psyspam so why not. Final addition was Venu cause it takes advantage of the sun with chlorophyll. I originally used a life orb venusaur set with earth power over sleep powder cause i hate inaccurate moves but i settled on bulky big root giga drain (im pretty sure this is a bad idea lmao) with sleep powder-simply because i find it interesting (doesn’t mean i think its good). If anyone has any suggestions, please do let me know.
Also considering vileplume because after you chlorophyll but idk
i didn’t know that
anyways whats ur thought on the team
im pretty sure its bad lol
Seriously considering growth on venu
Is two stage boost in the sun
And then start becoming annoying with big root giga drain
Was thinkin of a bulky venu set
Yeah i thought of that too
I originally had armar hold lorb
But like it dies pretty fast
So yeah maybe full bulk venu with growth to compensate and then i start spamming giga
Just an idea tho lol
I will drop sleep powder if im running growth cause i absolutely hate inaccuracy
Doesn’t mean its viable
I made this team just for fun honestly i dont think its good, like at all
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmc-2694275809
Whats the team? Im curious
I see
Yo
Yo
https://klipy.com/gifs/whimsicott-smile
Im back
U really keep making teams
But it looks good tho
Whats cooking noah
Did you burn the kitchen again
Uhh
Maybe lol
Thx
Lemme see it
Yeah def a solid team, tho that ofensive venue was kinda of unexpected
Scroll above
Growth over sleep powder btw
Sleep powder is a typo
Yeah saw that
Is good but a liabilty if it misses
Yeh
Interesting build I gotta say
A 2 am thought lol
Also why gunk shot over dire claw\poison jab
More damage
Some sneaslers are running gunk shots now
I understand its inaccurate
Team relies on inacurate moves
Ye ye I get the benefits
Only sneasler has an inaccurate move
Zardy too but ehh
And armar if we counting heat wave
Ye you rights
I am not seeing good wow
I didnt mean the team bro
I need glasses xD
ohhh
Wait lemme get them
lol 😂
Lemme not nerf myself
But dire claw is good more presicese and can give status
To the mon
Fair
Is there any different Kos you pick up with gunk shot?
That you cant with jab dire
Sylveon i think
Cause my sneas is a bit more bulky so like, less atk
Dire claw doesn’t get the ko
What is the numerical difference
Idk 🥲
Haven’t had the time to calc yet
Ohhh
I was gonna do dire claw but 2 am me saw gunk shot and went “eh why not”
Because Sylv has a bit lower sided defence
So it may not be that worth to run gunk
Tho if the difference is death and life Im all for it xD
Its common for sylveons to invest a little bit into defense
Dire claw doesn’t ohko
Yea I know
Tho not sure how much they invest
Im not sure if gunk shot ohkos
It should
When we are on that topic I should really start calcing for my team
But its sooo longggggg
I get lazy sometimes too
Because I think I have to do almost everyone
I think 3 are calced enough
Or 2
Depends tbh
Well good luck with those calcs then 😂
Gotta shower first and than I can get to ittt
This is gonna be long af