Pokémon VGC Team Building: BO3 Strategy & Advice

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The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server community provides expert feedback on optimizing competitive teams for BO3 tournament formats. This discussion covers essential adjustments for specific Pokémon, including advice on replacing underperforming units and countering common threats like Garchomp and Kingambit. It is a vital resource for players looking to refine their strategies and improve their performance in high-stakes competitive matches.

happyunicorn-34 OP

In BO3 format tournament battle please suggest best options for this team and flaws also

Pokémon VGC Team Building: BO3 Strategy & Advice

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happyunicorn-34 OP
freshcomet-92

if you want to use steelix you will need a sand setter

tidycomet-49

dragonite gotta go

tidycomet-49

get bro on the bench

tidycomet-49

or tell em to get the team some water

tidycomet-49

same with empoleon

freshcomet-92

try using seableyr with rain dance imstead of whimsicptt my opinion

tidycomet-49

tell em to get back to his shift at burger king

ironpanther-10

Yea I think this whole team needs to be overwriting/new writing

@ironpanther-10 Yea I think this whole team needs to be overwriting/new writing
freshcomet-92

i think he wants to use this team

tidycomet-49

if you wanna use steelix get ttar here

tidycomet-49

because you'll be eaten alive here with choice band dragonite and empoleon

tidycomet-49

unless god himself locked down at you at smiled because you're his favorite human that choice band is worthless

tidycomet-49

(sorry a little pissed because i lost a match because focus band proc twice)

happyunicorn-34 OP

My biggest issue is I want to run dragonite for trick room stopping with roar and I like it more than taunt... And steelix I can swap for any other mega options and empoleon is there to cover for intimidates and garchomps 🙂‍↕️

happyunicorn-34 OP

Dragonite could be viable with different items I suppose than

@happyunicorn-34 My biggest issue is I want to run dragonite for trick room stopping with roar and I like it more th…
tidycomet-49

Farig would be better than Dragonite

tidycomet-49

Dragonite can be stopped with fake out

tidycomet-49

and in bo3 they will know to fake out Dragonite to stop roar

happyunicorn-34 OP

So I should swap dragonite for farigaraf got it than

tidycomet-49

Also swap empoleon

happyunicorn-34 OP

Other mega options than steelix?

@tidycomet-49 Also swap empoleon
happyunicorn-34 OP

Empoleon covers for garchomps

tidycomet-49

bro is not doing anything
Garchomp will outspeed and one shot with earthquake or stomping

happyunicorn-34 OP

Vaccum wave could get sneaky KoS on kinggambit

happyunicorn-34 OP

Than should I keep dragonite for stopping garchomps?

@happyunicorn-34 Vaccum wave could get sneaky KoS on kinggambit
tidycomet-49

again the problem is you're planning to run this in bo3

happyunicorn-34 OP

New account not enough mons best is i could with run zard Y

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tidycomet-49

Vacuum wave isn't gonna catch anyone off guard after you use it once

tidycomet-49

A9 is better if you want to cover for garchomp

tidycomet-49

it actually out speeds

happyunicorn-34 OP

Or i guess I would grind a bit and recruit all those mons🙂‍↕️

@tidycomet-49 A9 is better if you want to cover for garchomp
happyunicorn-34 OP

A9?

happyunicorn-34 OP

Arcanine

@happyunicorn-34 New account not enough mons best is i could with run zard Y ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/att…
tidycomet-49

you have ttar and drill just drop zard y and run ttar drill steelix (if you can get farig but for now) oranguru for trick room sneasler and probably just garchomp

@happyunicorn-34 A9?
tidycomet-49

alolan Ninetales

@tidycomet-49 you have ttar and drill just drop zard y and run ttar drill steelix (if you can get farig but for n…
happyunicorn-34 OP

Running a sand team

happyunicorn-34 OP

Should I use that ghost dog too for sand rush last respects set

happyunicorn-34 OP

With ally switch

tidycomet-49

you can but garchomp probably a little more useful

happyunicorn-34 OP

Does this team is good for BO3?? tournament i guess i should add milotic in it

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happyunicorn-34 OP
happyunicorn-34 OP

Should I drop sneasler and add milotic? For scald and ice beams?

ironpanther-10

I think sneasler is good here

@happyunicorn-34 Does this team is good for BO3?? tournament i guess i should add milotic in it ![image](https://cdn…
freshcomet-92

you do not need whimsicoot i would say

ironpanther-10

But I'd adjust the team

freshcomet-92

try using sash venu

happyunicorn-34 OP

Ohh okay than speed control??

niftypixel-94

Life orb venu with a ton of bulk is also really good

ironpanther-10

I recommend life orb venu and bulky chari Y

happyunicorn-34 OP

Whimsicot for speed control?

@niftypixel-94 Life orb venu with a ton of bulk is also really good
ironpanther-10

not a ton of bulk, but some bulk, yea

@happyunicorn-34 Whimsicot for speed control?
freshcomet-92

you do need speed control with chloropjyll on venu its outspeed everyone

@ironpanther-10 I recommend life orb venu and bulky chari Y
happyunicorn-34 OP

Can u share me stats spread what can I do for this?

happyunicorn-34 OP

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ironpanther-10

like this

Pokémon VGC Team Building: BO3 Strategy & Advice

@ironpanther-10 like this ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1531611516892086322/1531665586734497962/i…
happyunicorn-34 OP

Oh. Okay and chari Y

ironpanther-10

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ironpanther-10

you survive life orb boosted max atk rockslide from garchomp that way

ironpanther-10

I like to combine that with Scarf Garchomp

@freshcomet-92 you do need speed control with chloropjyll on venu its outspeed everyone
happyunicorn-34 OP

and this milotic would pressure the switch on garchomp i just couldn't figure out garchomp counters??

@happyunicorn-34 and this milotic would pressure the switch on garchomp i just couldn't figure out garchomp counters…
ironpanther-10

the solarbeam lifeorb helping hands ohkos all garchomp sets

@ironpanther-10 the solarbeam lifeorb helping hands ohkos all garchomp sets
happyunicorn-34 OP

Ohh okay thanks I will do that

ironpanther-10

I like this for bulky chari Y
bc you can spam helping hand earthquake, outspeed other garchomps and still ohko them with helping hand
you ohko max hp max def chari Y, thanks to helping hand
ohko bulky mega floette and bulky mega aero with iron head helping hand

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ironpanther-10

chari Y is basicially here to spam helping hand and keep the sun active
but can still deal alot of damage with stab, sun boosted fire type moves

happyunicorn-34 OP

Ohh okay I should add that

happyunicorn-34 OP

And so basculigion i should use sash right?

happyunicorn-34 OP

Is this team okay or I should change something for BO3 tournaments?

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happyunicorn-34 OP
zestyumber-45

I think a bulkier sitrus berry basculegion would be good here instead of infernape or even focus Sash basc would do well I think

@happyunicorn-34 Is this team okay or I should change something for BO3 tournaments? ![image](https://cdn.discordapp…
cleverinbox-49

Ok let me look at the list of criteria

  • Charizard Y? Check
  • Good mons? Check

Ye you should be good

@zestyumber-45 I think a bulkier sitrus berry basculegion would be good here instead of infernape or even focus Sa…
happyunicorn-34 OP

Annihalape is the late game sweeper with focus sash intact...

happyunicorn-34 OP

Or even defiant procs would be great for it

@cleverinbox-49 Ok let me look at the list of criteria - Charizard Y? Check - Good mons? Check Ye you should be good
happyunicorn-34 OP

Is sneasler good in this team means do I need bulkier mons for pivot?

@cleverinbox-49 Ok let me look at the list of criteria - Charizard Y? Check - Good mons? Check Ye you should be good
happyunicorn-34 OP

Can u tell me the build for incineror?

@happyunicorn-34 Can u tell me the build for incineror?
cleverinbox-49

Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 30 HP / 11 Atk / 10 Def / 10 SpD / 5 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Flare Blitz
- Throat Chop
- Parting Shot

cleverinbox-49

:0 you are taunt incin?

cleverinbox-49

Keep it, it will be useful against tr

@happyunicorn-34 Is sneasler good in this team means do I need bulkier mons for pivot?
cleverinbox-49

I do think sneasler is a bit out of place, I think you could add like rotom wash perhaps

happyunicorn-34 OP

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happyunicorn-34 OP

How's this

happyunicorn-34 OP

This stats spread

cleverinbox-49

Ye this is good

happyunicorn-34 OP

Should I change anything or it's GTG

happyunicorn-34 OP

help me bro's with this team and stats

happyunicorn-34 OP

Recent update is i m in top 32 with this team i m struggling against hard TR teams and raptor teams

happyunicorn-34 OP

Raptor with charm+2 just kills my entire teams with having only 1 attack investment

@happyunicorn-34 Recent update is i m in top 32 with this team i m struggling against hard TR teams and raptor teams
cleverinbox-49

Top 32????

@cleverinbox-49 Top 32????
happyunicorn-34 OP

Yeah in tournament

cleverinbox-49

Oh ok

@cleverinbox-49 Oh ok
happyunicorn-34 OP

So that's the problem i m facing

cleverinbox-49

Ok well if you intimidate it bfore it megas then your mons should survive cc (aside from incin) and fire back with a lot of damage

happyunicorn-34 OP

Ohh okay noted so incineror is the answer to raptor teams ryt

happyunicorn-34 OP

Incin + Charizard lead would pressure his whimsicot and raptor leads

cleverinbox-49

Actually no, I don't recommend you lead incin

cleverinbox-49

Cuz you can switch in incin and intimidate him bfore he megas

cleverinbox-49

And leading incin presumes that he is leading staraptor which is not always the case

@cleverinbox-49 And leading incin presumes that he is leading staraptor which is not always the case
happyunicorn-34 OP

Ohh okay yeah kinggambit leads would be scary if I lead incineror

cleverinbox-49

Ye, I think a yard + annihilape lead could work well

cleverinbox-49

Also punishes staraptors intimidate with defiant

happyunicorn-34 OP

Yeah but they are running bulky raptors this time

happyunicorn-34 OP

With only 1 attack investment

cleverinbox-49

Ye but if they activate defiant then they have a choice

@cleverinbox-49 Ye but if they activate defiant then they have a choice
happyunicorn-34 OP

Yeahh that also true

happyunicorn-34 OP

Nd for a hard TR teams with farig colbur berry and fake out leads??

happyunicorn-34 OP

I need to stall trick room turns for it really

cleverinbox-49

Either double annihilape to ko it but lose hp on staraptor and maybe die to a heatwave or kill of charizard y and deal with the same issues

cleverinbox-49

I don't recon +2 cc kos yard although I aint sure

@happyunicorn-34 Nd for a hard TR teams with farig colbur berry and fake out leads??
cleverinbox-49

You do have milotic, incin and sash annihilape who can stall out tr turns but its best to have some actuall counterplay to tr

@cleverinbox-49 You do have milotic, incin and sash annihilape who can stall out tr turns but its best to have some…
happyunicorn-34 OP

I don't have milotic I have toxipex I switched it for milo

@cleverinbox-49 I don't recon +2 cc kos yard although I aint sure
happyunicorn-34 OP

+2 brave bird kills zard Y and +2 CC kills garchomp

cleverinbox-49

No ye thats fine

cleverinbox-49

They have to charm and brave bird meaning that annihilape can kill them

cleverinbox-49

Or brave bird and moonblast meaning that yard can kill them

happyunicorn-34 OP

Yeah I guess so that will be fine i guess

@cleverinbox-49 Or brave bird and moonblast meaning that yard can kill them
happyunicorn-34 OP

Nd what would be my answers to scarf basculigion other than focus sash intact annihalape or the venu..

@happyunicorn-34 Nd what would be my answers to scarf basculigion other than focus sash intact annihalape or the ven…
cleverinbox-49

I mean with basc you kinda just need to have enough tools remaining to deal with it

cleverinbox-49

Incin is actually rly useful against endgame bascs if you position it correctly

@cleverinbox-49 I mean with basc you kinda just need to have enough tools remaining to deal with it
happyunicorn-34 OP

Yeah with big six i struggle against basc in the end to take down garchomp and aero than basc in the back i struggle against that

cleverinbox-49

You can intimidate it and incin deals with last respects nicely so if you can confirm its scarf then you have a basically gauranteed win condition if incin is healthy enough or other mons are also available

@cleverinbox-49 You can intimidate it and incin deals with last respects nicely so if you can confirm its scarf the…
happyunicorn-34 OP

Yeah for that I need to take down garchomp and aero first without taking much damage on mons

happyunicorn-34 OP

That would be tough but I need to position my mons well enough

cleverinbox-49

Ye its abt postioning

@cleverinbox-49 Ye its abt postioning
happyunicorn-34 OP

Yess and toxipex coming very handy to stop the earthquake and the rock slides

happyunicorn-34 OP

I need to read the opponents moves carefully that's the key

@cleverinbox-49 Ye its abt postioning
happyunicorn-34 OP

Thanks for the advice i will do that bro hopefully go to top 10 and win it

@cleverinbox-49 Ye its abt postioning
happyunicorn-34 OP

Bro I need some help

cleverinbox-49

Ye?

@cleverinbox-49 Ye?
happyunicorn-34 OP

Can u come in DMs?

cleverinbox-49

Sure gimme a sec

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