Pokémon VGC Team Building Help & Strategy Tips

Summary

At Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments, community members collaborate to refine competitive team builds. This discussion focuses on optimizing balance teams, improving synergy between Pokémon like Pelipper and Volcarona, and adjusting EV spreads for better bulk and setup potential. It highlights the importance of strategic team composition in the VGC doubles format.

magicmirror-74 OP

Any help will be appreciated ☺️

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Please help 🙏

briskmirror-98

Is this doubles

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Could you share your evs too

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Sure also

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I have a thing where I will never use flip turn 😂

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And also yes I know I'm a max weirdo

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Idk like phantom Force it's basically protect for choice skarf imo

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So

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Appreciate

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@magicmirror-74 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1553820019215831091/1553822867668467833/Screenshot_…
briskmirror-98

Thank you. Your team is a balance team with a rain mode. I personally don’t think volcarona and pelipper have any synergy together, since you want to boost volcarona but pelipper rain ruins the damage so you can almost never bring these two together. I would consider running salamence in that slot for flying damage and tailwind and it does pair with lucario offensively

@briskmirror-98 Thank you. Your team is a balance team with a rain mode. I personally don’t think volcarona and pel…
magicmirror-74 OP

Salamce 😞

briskmirror-98

I know dude I know…

magicmirror-74 OP

It's supposed to be a mega luc Z team

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It um

briskmirror-98

That was just a suggestion honestly the main idea is something else over pelipper

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The second thing is the EVs being max max, for a balance team it’s not ideal

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The reason is because you want to have some bulk to allow you to actually setup

@briskmirror-98 The reason is because you want to have some bulk to allow you to actually setup
magicmirror-74 OP

Not max btw

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I fixed ☺️

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See

briskmirror-98

Your volcarona has a minus defense nature instead of modest, did you mean that?

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Also nani these are the flying types I have lol

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@briskmirror-98 Your volcarona has a minus defense nature instead of modest, did you mean that?
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No...

briskmirror-98

Nice shiny talonflame

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Ahh hahah okay pointing that out in case of that reason

@briskmirror-98 Ahh hahah okay pointing that out in case of that reason
magicmirror-74 OP

Hmm

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I was gonna run flame but then I thought nahh

@briskmirror-98 Ahh hahah okay pointing that out in case of that reason
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Only shiny I've ever caught in SV

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Lol

briskmirror-98

That looks solid could also consider heatwave spread damage is always nice, giga drain is good too

briskmirror-98

Max special attack and max speed makes sense but in practice it just makes it harder for volcarona to click quiver dance as consistently

@briskmirror-98 That looks solid could also consider heatwave spread damage is always nice, giga drain is good too
magicmirror-74 OP

Also can I get that champion tier role lol

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I've been there before

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And I'm almost there this season lol

@magicmirror-74 Also can I get that champion tier role lol
briskmirror-98

They gave it to me when I posted the screenshot of being in champion tier so you can do that for sure

@briskmirror-98 They gave it to me when I posted the screenshot of being in champion tier so you can do that for su…
magicmirror-74 OP

Bet

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Lol

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Anyway, what are the things I should change

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Do y'all think

briskmirror-98

You got this king

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I believe in u twin

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❤️

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You want to see something funny

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These are my rolls on my own Discord

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Read the 4th one

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So

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I dispise rain

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So yes I'm PERFECTLY

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Ok with swaping it out

@magicmirror-74 Anyway, what are the things I should change
briskmirror-98

I would drop dark pulse for protect on lucario you really need it if using nasty plot otherwise you just lose to fake out, encore, and easily die since lucario is just single target anyway. You have mons to hit basc and ghold

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Changed

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And yes I am perfectly okay with changing rain. I only had it for like minusing the damage of like flare blitz and other fire moves towards my Lucario

@magicmirror-74 I fixed ☺️ ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1553820019215831091/1553825349140357200/…
briskmirror-98

Also your basc is negative sp def nature, im assuming that’s not intended but i would say jolly is better than adamant for scarf as with 195 you mis outspeeding a lot of things

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Make sense?

@briskmirror-98 Also your basc is negative sp def nature, im assuming that’s not intended but i would say jolly is…
magicmirror-74 OP

It's a brand new basculusion. I wanted one for life orb and for choice scarf so I swapped the new one and I recruited that one. So yeah it's new my bad

@magicmirror-74 Make sense?
briskmirror-98

Makes sense yeah

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Swaper

@magicmirror-74 It's a brand new basculusion. I wanted one for life orb and for choice scarf so I swapped the new o…
briskmirror-98

Ahh valid

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Done

briskmirror-98

What team did you use to hit champion tier? Was it a similar type of balance team?

@briskmirror-98 What team did you use to hit champion tier? Was it a similar type of balance team?
magicmirror-74 OP

At the time it was, I think that don't blame me for this Italian ice

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Because in my defense I was using it far before worlds

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Even was an idea

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Like I made that team like at the beginning but I didn't use lycanroc I used Garchomp

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But I hit master ball with a different balance team that I made

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So yea ☺️❤️

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?????

briskmirror-98

Yo sorry dude I had to do something for a bit

@magicmirror-74 At the time it was, I think that don't blame me for this Italian ice
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Nah not at all it’s a cool team

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Oh ok

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Good it back

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I'm like really contemplating on changing toilet

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🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

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Okay, I should know this but I'm like completely blanking right now. What resist Rock

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Type?

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? (I'm sorry for all the pings) 😞

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Oh mb

briskmirror-98

Hmm honestly hard to think of what to swap it

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Ik bro

briskmirror-98

You want the tailwind and flying stab right?

briskmirror-98

And you said it was also for rain support for goli

@briskmirror-98 And you said it was also for rain support for goli
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Not for goli for luc

briskmirror-98

For lucario I mean

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Hahaha

magicmirror-74 OP

Yea

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I want it for tailwind and flying stab yea but mostly just tail wind

briskmirror-98

Aside from salamence I’m struggling honestly. Could be M staraptor if you want another mega, and def run parting shot on grimmsnarl

magicmirror-74 OP

I can use sal 😞

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But I really hate sal

briskmirror-98

You don’t have to use Sal

magicmirror-74 OP

I don't want to But if it's the best candidate for it I will

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It's like me running parish but I have one pokémon short so I just end up running arch and I hate arch does that make sense?

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Because of rain

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Make sense like best candidate but I don't like them

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Are you typing like an essay my god

briskmirror-98

I would say the things I’d def change, without changing any mons:

Parting shot on grimmsnarl for sure, I’d drop fake out first and second light screen. Or would

Wood hammer over u turn or high horsepower on rilla.

For sure flip turn over force because honestly being able to immediately chip and pivot on lead with basc is strong

briskmirror-98

Sorry I was interrupted mid typing

@briskmirror-98 I would say the things I’d def change, without changing any mons: Parting shot on grimmsnarl for su…
magicmirror-74 OP

Bruh flip turn

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Ok brb

briskmirror-98

I was trying to think of what I’d slot over peli on this team. I would acc put mega raichu y

briskmirror-98

Fake out support speed control with zap cannon can enable volc better too, has synergy with rillaboom already. The one thing tho is both megas are ground weak but it’s playable with basc and rilla.

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Ok I'm back

@briskmirror-98 Fake out support speed control with zap cannon can enable volc better too, has synergy with rillabo…
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True I'll do it

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do you think that this team could still work in this reg

briskmirror-98

Nah I don’t think this team is good in this reg tbh, a lot of the choices struggle into the meta for example mega venusaur is super cooked by the psyspam. Garchomp roseli EQ struggles into rillaboom etc it just seems it would struggle into the most common archetypes rn

briskmirror-98

Does look like the double weather teams or the zard Garchomp z comps going off rn tho

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