VGC Team Building Help: Optimize Your Pokémon Strategy
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Summary
In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members collaborate to refine competitive teams by moving beyond standard meta counters. This discussion focuses on optimizing held items for Pokémon like Sinistcha and Blaziken, while providing critical feedback on speed spreads and damage calculations for Mamoswine. It highlights the community's active role in helping players improve their competitive viability through shared knowledge and strategic adjustments.
I have a lot of useful pokemon but i think i fall into the trap of meta counters meta 😭 just want some advice on improving my current team with some of my favs or pokemon in the box
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Sorry
Bro say sorry
LMAO
I didnt know if i was allowed to 😭
nah you are
Wahhhh just does it because the vast majority of people forget to haha
for some reason
There is a variation of my team rly similar to this
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Your items on sinistcha and blaziken are bad, a berry for sinistcha to resist one of its weaknesses and a sash or blazikenite on blaziken is prob better
uhhh yeah that blaziken isn't doing anything
Or a ghost resisting or a dark resisting berry (forgot the names)
both of those berries are good
sitrus is good too
If i take sitrus off my rotom should i replace it with a resistance berry?
fully up to you
rotom is fine with lefties
Ayyyeee thank you
That mamo spread is horrible
It doesn’t kill chomp with shard and it doesn’t outspeed any meta mons
Like maybe it outspeeds inci
https://klipy.com/gifs/dog-ears-1
I mean its what I have used since ma and it worked fine
If u have tailwind use this
12 evs hp
32 evs attack
16 evs speed
Adamant nature
And life orb
Nah
I like sash
Mamo dies rly easily otherwise
Well enjoy not killing chomp
I kill it with icicle spear
Yeah and u will outspeed zard y his favorite partner
Amor any special sweeper
Have u looked mamo spd?
Whats wrong with outspeeding em if they are bulky?
Seems like a positive to me
?????
Mamo can’t outspeed any of this mons without tw
My mamo is 145 speed, which prob outspeeds some bulky yards
Man U can’t be helping on teambuilding if u really aren’t really good at teambuilding
that specifically just barely outspeeds non scarf basc soo
https://klipy.com/gifs/swept-away-by-the-waves-brightbill
but like
you don't need to outspeed when you can just kill with ice shard
Acua jet and fast rock slide
I got top 300 in showdown ma who tf are you calling bad at teambuilding
And mb
With that team?!!!
yeah I'm not saying fast mamo is good I'm saying there could be use cases
BUT
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Let's chill out and not insult each other
I'm going to sleep anyways lmao
night
Gn
Goodnight 🌙
Gn
https://klipy.com/gifs/goog-good-night
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Its slightly different, had gard and corv I think but aside from that was mostly the same
Without mamo?
Ye
It didn't have rotom or metagross
Half of the team was differnt lmao
I don't rly care to have this conversation, just makes me more annoyed the longer I continue. Was just annoyed you were calling me a bad teambuilding over no other reason aside from me using a mamoswine set that you dislike
Updated team!
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metronome?
I had no clue what it does other than dmg stack pop bomb 😭
i have no idea how it interact with pop bomb lol, but usually wide guard is better so almost guarantee it hits 10 times
Originally it was kings rock but thank you ive never heard of using wide gaurd with it
i would recommend shadow sneak instead of poltergeist to help secure kills, having both last respests and poltergeist is kinda redundant since after 1 death LR is just better
Bet i thought poltergeist did decent damage against mega stones
it does but after 1 death last respest is 5 base power stronger and can't miss
Ohhh okay
ouh wait no poltergeist is 110
my bad
O
still last respect is 100 bp and can't miss
Tru !
So get rid of polt n get shadow sneak n put wide gaurd on my mous fam
Got it 👍
Thank you wise one 🙏🏾
mous has wide guard?
huh didn't know that
good luck on your games
I thought so ? I may be trippin
i'm checking serebii and i'm not seeing it lol
Wide lens*
I was auto typing sorry
ouhhh
lol
no problem
i recommend making it max speed if you're going for an offensive set, usually you wanna go friend guard if you want a bulkier maushold
wait no i'm blind lmfao
i need to sleep more
sorry my mistake