Pokémon VGC Team Building & Strategy Guide

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server provides expert advice on competitive team building and battle tactics. This discussion covers effective strategies for countering common threats like rain teams and Charizard Y, while exploring niche tactics like Soak and defensive support options. It is an essential resource for players looking to refine their competitive rosters and improve their performance in VGC tournaments.

cosmicarcher-67 OP

Can u guys tell me how to use the team i built properly how to counter certain pokemons

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cosmicarcher-67 OP
cleverinbox-49

Who do you wanna counter?

cosmicarcher-67 OP

basically water teams and charizod y teams

cleverinbox-49

Well water is kinda simple and complex at the same time

@cleverinbox-49 Well water is kinda simple and complex at the same time
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yea if its swampert i can just fake out and use grass knot

cleverinbox-49

You have to win the weather war or get raichu in tailwind so it can beat up the rain pokemon

cosmicarcher-67 OP

hmmm allright

@cleverinbox-49 You have to win the weather war or get raichu in tailwind so it can beat up the rain pokemon
cosmicarcher-67 OP

what r raichu counters

cosmicarcher-67 OP

is there any other improvements i can do with the team switch up some pokemons or anything else

cleverinbox-49

There aren't rly "counters" in the traditional sense for raichu since it hits everybody for basically supereffective but if you are against someone with a ground move or literally any strong attack it can die pretty easily so you have to be very careful with it

cosmicarcher-67 OP

My box

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ironpanther-10

lots of people saw sucess with quick guard sneasler, to prevent it being hit by strong aqua jets or suckerpunches

@cleverinbox-49 There aren't rly "counters" in the traditional sense for raichu since it hits everybody for basical…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yea thats right

cleverinbox-49

And if your opponent is bulky enough they can live and retalitate by probably ohkoing raichu

@cleverinbox-49 And if your opponent is bulky enough they can live and retalitate by probably ohkoing raichu
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yea

@ironpanther-10 lots of people saw sucess with quick guard sneasler, to prevent it being hit by strong aqua jets or…
cleverinbox-49

I'd say farig prob easier for most players

cosmicarcher-67 OP

i wanted to use a strat like using soak on basculigon changing their typing to ater

cosmicarcher-67 OP

water

@cosmicarcher-67 i wanted to use a strat like using soak on basculigon changing their typing to ater
cleverinbox-49

I've seen that its rly rly rly gimmicky

ironpanther-10

Against ground type moves sinistcha looks like a decent option, the only Pokémon that uses a ground type move and ignores powder moves is mega venusaur with its powder immunity and earth power

@ironpanther-10 Against ground type moves sinistcha looks like a decent option, the only Pokémon that uses a ground…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

thats thing i want but cant get it

cleverinbox-49

I had my mega soaked for the entire game but the other pokemon prevented them from rly doing much without losing raichu

@cleverinbox-49 I had my mega soaked for the entire game but the other pokemon prevented them from rly doing much w…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

ohhh ok

@cosmicarcher-67 thats thing i want but cant get it
ironpanther-10

I believe I can give you a sinistcha if you are able to trade

@ironpanther-10 I believe I can give you a sinistcha if you are able to trade
cosmicarcher-67 OP

really

cosmicarcher-67 OP

r u sure bro

ironpanther-10

Soak is not too bad, it can turn your garchomps 4x ice weakness into a 0,5x resistance aswell

@ironpanther-10 Soak is not too bad, it can turn your garchomps 4x ice weakness into a 0,5x resistance aswell
cosmicarcher-67 OP

hmmmm yea didnt think of that

cleverinbox-49

Its usually recommended to have a secondary mega to cover matchups were your main mega lowke sucks

@ironpanther-10 Soak is not too bad, it can turn your garchomps 4x ice weakness into a 0,5x resistance aswell
cosmicarcher-67 OP

does speed matter

@cleverinbox-49 Its usually recommended to have a secondary mega to cover matchups were your main mega lowke sucks
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yea i get it floette but thats not with me so off the bar

@cosmicarcher-67 does speed matter
cleverinbox-49

The basc I saw was scarf soak so maybe

ironpanther-10

Yes, soak basculegions tend to use choice scarf, paired with wave crash, last respects, flipturn/ aqua jet

@cosmicarcher-67 yea i get it floette but thats not with me so off the bar
cleverinbox-49

No no no, there are a lot of other megas you can use

@cleverinbox-49 No no no, there are a lot of other megas you can use
cosmicarcher-67 OP

what r those i can that r in my box

@cosmicarcher-67 what r those i can that r in my box
cleverinbox-49

https://klipy.com/gifs/raccoon-hehehe-1

cleverinbox-49

Dragonite

cosmicarcher-67 OP

danggg

@cleverinbox-49 Dragonite
cosmicarcher-67 OP

ok what can i replace it with

cleverinbox-49

And gyrados, venu, scep... wait shi sceptile might actually work kinda well here

@cleverinbox-49 And gyrados, venu, scep... wait shi sceptile might actually work kinda well here
cosmicarcher-67 OP

dang

cosmicarcher-67 OP

septile

@cosmicarcher-67 ok what can i replace it with
cleverinbox-49

Garchomp cuz you don't wanna be evicerated by ice

cosmicarcher-67 OP

sceptile

@cleverinbox-49 Garchomp cuz you don't wanna be evicerated by ice
cosmicarcher-67 OP

hmmmm ok

ironpanther-10

mega floette is one of the few megas where you don't always want a secondary mega aswell

There are teams by pros entire built for supporting floette, for example with incin, sinistcha, sneasler, garchomp, etc
Because its a very strong mega, but also only strong, if you do mega evolve it
same goes for raichu

If you have 2 megas that are only good if you do mega them, its hard to bring both megas, what you wont do often, since it requires alot of skill, but it can really help your team if your megas have synergy

cleverinbox-49

I have metagross and dnite for example, both can be brought without their mega cuz base 600s

@ironpanther-10 mega floette is one of the few megas where you don't always want a secondary mega aswell There are…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

ah so they have to be good atleast without a mega

@cosmicarcher-67 ah so they have to be good atleast without a mega
cleverinbox-49

Not necessarily but it makes things easier

@cleverinbox-49 Not necessarily but it makes things easier
cosmicarcher-67 OP

hmmm ok

cosmicarcher-67 OP

ok so i replace my garchomp for sceptile ?

cleverinbox-49

Hmm

@cosmicarcher-67 ah so they have to be good atleast without a mega
ironpanther-10

Yes, having 1 out of 2 megas that are only good with their mega is okay, but having 2 megas that are only good with their megas can really cause some trouble

For example Meganium and Mawile

Mawile needs to mega to get huge power

Meganium needs to mega to get its sun ability, to use solar beam and weather ball efficiently

thats why you never see these 2 in one team

ironpanther-10

atleast not in professional level

@ironpanther-10 Yes, having 1 out of 2 megas that are only good with their mega is okay, but having 2 megas that ar…
cleverinbox-49

Also they share fire weakness

cleverinbox-49

So yard, delphox and pyroar will evicerate them

ironpanther-10

Yes, but also you usually play these 2 in rain teams

@cleverinbox-49 Also they share fire weakness
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yes

ironpanther-10

actually mawile also sees play in sun teams, but only in trickroom sweeping teams

cosmicarcher-67 OP

so should i just create a whole new team or let this be and replace some mons

ironpanther-10

Do you want to stick to mega raichu Y

ironpanther-10

lets call it yaichu

cleverinbox-49

Its easier to start from scratch especially when you are using someone elses team

@ironpanther-10 Do you want to stick to mega raichu Y
cosmicarcher-67 OP

nop not that much

cosmicarcher-67 OP

i just used it because people said its good

ironpanther-10

What megas are you interested to use?

@cosmicarcher-67 i just used it because people said its good
cleverinbox-49

Its decent but not like that good cuz its frail asf

ironpanther-10

For example I used mega delphox just because it looked sick, but turns out its actually very good and brought me to #99 worldwide

@ironpanther-10 What megas are you interested to use?
cosmicarcher-67 OP

charizod y but dont have him lol

cleverinbox-49

I use dnite cuz he's cool asf

cosmicarcher-67 OP

i wanna try venasore

cleverinbox-49

https://klipy.com/gifs/dronite-charizard

@cleverinbox-49 https://klipy.com/gifs/dronite-charizard
cosmicarcher-67 OP

lol

ironpanther-10

I like dnite, but I'm more excited for mega salamance

@ironpanther-10 For example I used mega delphox just because it looked sick, but turns out its actually very good a…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

my god ur top 100

@ironpanther-10 I like dnite, but I'm more excited for mega salamance
cosmicarcher-67 OP

i love dnite to so much

cosmicarcher-67 OP

but ididnt know he was good

@cosmicarcher-67 my god ur top 100
ironpanther-10

Yea, a real proplayer helped me build my delphox team, since I was struggling a bit to find its potentially best partners

@ironpanther-10 I like dnite, but I'm more excited for mega salamance
cleverinbox-49

My boi dnite needs a job, lemme have like a month more bfore he gets replaced

cleverinbox-49

Then Imma just wait till tera to use him again

@ironpanther-10 Yea, a real proplayer helped me build my delphox team, since I was struggling a bit to find its pot…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

can u guys help me build one i really want to beat my friend so badly

ironpanther-10

So you want to use mega Chari y?

ironpanther-10

I can trade you one, I have so many charizards in pokemon scarlet

@ironpanther-10 I can trade you one, I have so many charizards in pokemon scarlet
cosmicarcher-67 OP

man r u sure if thats fine then hell yea i want one

ironpanther-10

Do you have scarlet or violet

@cosmicarcher-67 man r u sure if thats fine then hell yea i want one
cleverinbox-49

Charizard is easy asf to get

ironpanther-10

or do we have to trade via home

@ironpanther-10 or do we have to trade via home
cosmicarcher-67 OP

lets do home

cleverinbox-49

Gen 1 pokemon basically always present in every modern game

ironpanther-10

aight, let me find a chari and transfer it to home

@ironpanther-10 aight, let me find a chari and transfer it to home
cosmicarcher-67 OP

thanks bro

ironpanther-10

I have to charge my nintendo first

ironpanther-10

takes a while

cosmicarcher-67 OP

so and how to build a team around him

@cosmicarcher-67 so and how to build a team around him
cleverinbox-49

Simple, add the meta pokemon

cleverinbox-49

And boom

cleverinbox-49

You win naic

ironpanther-10

Chari y synergizes very well with either floette or sylveon, I recommend sylveon

@ironpanther-10 Chari y synergizes very well with either floette or sylveon, I recommend sylveon
cosmicarcher-67 OP

well that will take time sylveon im trying to get in pokemon go

ironpanther-10

i might have one in scarlet aswell

@cosmicarcher-67 well that will take time sylveon im trying to get in pokemon go
cleverinbox-49

🔁|gts_trades

@cleverinbox-49 Simple, add the meta pokemon
cosmicarcher-67 OP

lol thanks bros

ironpanther-10

I dont need it, its easy to get really

ironpanther-10

IF I do have one I will trade it to you right after chari

ironpanther-10

do you even tempt to use sylveon?

@ironpanther-10 do you even tempt to use sylveon?
cosmicarcher-67 OP

i mean kind of she has pixalate that changes normal type to fairy types

ironpanther-10

we could build a very simple offensive core with
chari y
sylveon
sneasler
kingambit
basculegion
whimsicott/mega aerodactyl

@cosmicarcher-67 i mean kind of she has pixalate that changes normal type to fairy types
cleverinbox-49

Gardevoir has that too and gard is cooler :PokemonChampionsHappy:

@cleverinbox-49 Gardevoir has that too and gard is cooler
cosmicarcher-67 OP

hmmm

@ironpanther-10 we could build a very simple offensive core with chari y sylveon sneasler kingambit basculegion whi…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

ok i have basically everything except 3 mons

cosmicarcher-67 OP

aerodactyle id good

@cosmicarcher-67 aerodactyle id good
cleverinbox-49

When there is a rockslide ther is a way

@cleverinbox-49 When there is a rockslide ther is a way
cosmicarcher-67 OP

oh yea

cosmicarcher-67 OP

thanks guys

cleverinbox-49

Honestly just look up charizard y in labmaus or pikalytics

cleverinbox-49

You'll get close to a 1000 copies of the same team and wolfe

@cleverinbox-49 Honestly just look up charizard y in labmaus or pikalytics
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yep doing that

cosmicarcher-67 OP

i just got starrapter from the recruit thingy

cleverinbox-49

:0

@cleverinbox-49 :0
cosmicarcher-67 OP

i think its good for charizod y team it says top 5 teammates

cleverinbox-49

Ok staraptor has 2 main ways of using it, support the mega teams which are powerful against the unexperienced but fall apart once your opponents have the correct tools and final gambit sets which are useful when paired with farigraf to ohko a lot of pokemon, like megas, archaladon or anti tr utils

@cleverinbox-49 Ok staraptor has 2 main ways of using it, support the mega teams which are powerful against the une…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

ohhh ok

@cosmicarcher-67 i think its good for charizod y team it says top 5 teammates
cleverinbox-49

Huh? People use staraptor and charizard y together?

@cleverinbox-49 Huh? People use staraptor and charizard y together?
cosmicarcher-67 OP

it says its top 10 teammates for him

cosmicarcher-67 OP

in pikalytics

cleverinbox-49

I mean maybe as the final gambit set but given they both share the rock and electric weaknesses I don't think its very good as a secondary mega

@cleverinbox-49 I mean maybe as the final gambit set but given they both share the rock and electric weaknesses I d…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yea i guss

cosmicarcher-67 OP

its the last so i expected that

@cleverinbox-49 I mean maybe as the final gambit set but given they both share the rock and electric weaknesses I d…
cosmicarcher-67 OP

ngl i thought using mr rime using the move role play on yaichu and just spam cheer cold

@cosmicarcher-67 ngl i thought using mr rime using the move role play on yaichu and just spam cheer cold
cleverinbox-49

Thats funny but both are rly frail and will prob die in those 2 turns

@cleverinbox-49 Thats funny but both are rly frail and will prob die in those 2 turns
cosmicarcher-67 OP

yea but its funny

cosmicarcher-67 OP

ngl i cant wait for rillaboom to release in the game will be sick

@cosmicarcher-67 yea but its funny
cleverinbox-49

True

@cosmicarcher-67 ngl i cant wait for rillaboom to release in the game will be sick
cleverinbox-49

I don't like the monkey, If he loses knock off then sure else nah I don't rly want him back

cosmicarcher-67 OP

lol sure

@cleverinbox-49 I don't like the monkey, If he loses knock off then sure else nah I don't rly want him back
cosmicarcher-67 OP

i have to try getting whimsicot some how

cosmicarcher-67 OP

bro i got sninistcha and sylveon

cosmicarcher-67 OP

sick now just need charizod

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