Rain Team Swampert Options for VGC
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is hosting a deep dive into optimizing rain teams featuring Swampert. This discussion evaluates team balance, move set adjustments for Archaludon and Incineroar, and potential replacements for Basculegion like Sneasler. It is a vital resource for players looking to refine their competitive VGC builds and improve their synergy in the current meta.
I need some help building a rain team with Swampert. I'm torn between these options. What do you recommend?
Either the first or second one
I am biased towards dnite so I like the second one more but the first one is pretty good too
Although the second one is more balanced with 3 phy and 3 spa so its prob better
I do think basc could be replaced with someone else tho
Thanks for the help!
Which Pokémon would you replace Basculegion with?
And the way to play the team is pretty much the same as the others, right?
Do you think there's a different team that would be even better than the ones I shared?
I'm open to changing multiple Pokémon if it would make the team stronger. I'd love to hear your recommendations.
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Hmm
I think grimmsnarl prob
Arch should have dragon pulse
Incin can have like taunt over flareblitz
Actually maybe somebody else like sneasler
But you would have to use high horsepower then
Right, so I would replace Basculegion with Sneasler, correct? Would High Horsepower be on Swampert?
Wouldn’t Swampert feel weaker without Earthquake?
I mean ya
But when 3 of your pokemon are weak to ground its kinda hard to justify
Lemme check for any other physical attackers that might work, you can use sinistcha if you are fine with special
Got it. I’m still new to VGC, but I noticed people usually click Earthquake when Swampert is next to Pelipper, since Pelipper is immune to it.
well ye
I am a bit paranoid tbh cuz I have a mamo next to 3 resistances/immunities to eq so that I can eq spam a lot
You can prob use it fine I just like easy spammability
So what would be the best option overall?
Sneasler is fine, allows you to beat other rain teams easier
So should I keep Earthquake on Swampert?
Sure
Awesome, thanks a lot for the help!
Awesome, thanks a lot for the help! Do you want me to send you the stats?
Awesome, thanks a lot for the help! Do you want me to send you the stats?
Ye
Okay, I'll look for a build for Pelipper with more health, thanks for the help.
Okay, I'll look for a build for Pelipper with more health, thanks for the help. One last question: should the items stay the same? I saw a bulkier Pelipper build with more HP investment that uses Damp Rock.
How would Incineroar’s moveset look with Taunt?
Fake out taunt blitz throat chip
I think
Ty
If it’s a rain team I heard they drop blitz for cc
close combat?
Yep
Ok
Sure !
I'll look for a build for Pelipper with more health, thanks for the help. One last question: should the items stay the same? I saw a bulkier Pelipper build with more HP investment that uses Damp Rock.
He recommended that I use a Pelipper build with more focus on HP, and I found one, but it uses Damp Rock. Should I switch to it or not?
Also, should I keep the same items on each Pokémon from the photo I sent, or would you change anything?
Yeah damp rock seems shit
Sitrus berry on the bulky ones I think
You’re always pivoting your bird in and out to get weather control
Damp rock seem redundant
So should I keep Focus Sash on Pelipper and keep the rest of the items on the other Pokémon?
Besides Incineroar, is there any other Pokémon you would put Sitrus Berry on?
Life orb on sylveon is nice
Sitrus on Pelli
Not Sylveon. The team is the one from the second image, but replacing Basculegion with Sneasler.
Not Sylveon. The team is the one from the second image, but replacing Basculegion with Sneasler.
Not Sylveon. The team is the one from the second image, but replacing Basculegion with Sneasler.
I can only use one item per Pokémon, so it's either the Sitrus Berry on Incineroar or on Pelipper.
In the end, the team looked like this:
Is there anything that needs to change?
You can use thunder cuz rain makes it 100% accurate over thunderbolt
But if you are worried abt other weather then thunderbolt is fine, its better against yard
Ok, thanks
I will test it.
But to take down the flying field, I only have them.
What would you put in its place?
Something like weather ball or heatwave. Icy wind
