Mega Slowbro Trick Room Team Review

Summary

In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments a member posts a Mega Slowbro Trick Room team for review. The announcement covers a Slowbro mega core that stacks Iron Defense and uses Body Press, supported by Sinistcha as secondary Trick Room setter, Kingambit, Primarina, Glimmora, and Incineroar. Feedback is requested to address typing and matchup weaknesses.

warmsummit-58 OP

I've been working to make Slowbro a viable mega on a team for about a month, and I would appreciate any input that would improve my current list. I'm pretty new to VGC, so any suggestions are helpful.

Slowbro @ Slowbronite
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Trick Room
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Slack Off

Sinistcha @ Kasib Berry
Ability: Hospitality
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Def / 2 SpA
Relaxed Nature
- Trick Room
- Matcha Gotcha
- Rage Powder
- Protect

Kingambit @ Black Glasses
Ability: Defiant
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 1 Def / 1 SpD
Brave Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Kowtow Cleave
- Iron Head
- Protect

Primarina @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 SpA / 2 SpD
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Moonblast
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Glimmora @ Focus Sash
Ability: Toxic Debris
Level: 50
EVs: 32 SpA / 2 SpD / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Power Gem
- Earth Power
- Sludge Bomb
- Spiky Shield

Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD
Brave Nature
- Fake Out
- Parting Shot
- Darkest Lariat
- Flare Blitz

The core of the team focuses on keeping slowbro on the field, stacking up Def boosts with iron defense, and sweeping with body press. Sinistcha helps keep sowbro alive, and serves as a secondary trick room setter. Kingambit provides coverage for ghost type matchups and annoying fairy types with high Sp. Atk. Primarina is a decently powerful special attacker with good offensive coverage, but suffers from a shared typing with slowbro. Glimmora is mainly for the Mega Charizard matchup, but I've found toxic debris to be effective when stalling with slowbro. Incineroar is just incineroar (fakeout support that lowers opponent damage output).

Weaknesses of the team mainly center around typing, but also the playstyle, which had been difficult to engineer.

plaidforest-21

Am I the only one feeling that

plaidforest-21

Glimmora is heavily out of place here

plaidforest-21

i feel if Glimmora is going to be your second mega you might want a tailwind mode so you do tailroom

plaidforest-21

??

coralquiver-12

Why not use stored power and alcreamie ?

coralquiver-12

could get rid of glimmora

coralquiver-12

also makes it so you cannot be encored, taunted, ect

coralquiver-12

that way you don’t waste a round on the mega and make a partner setup

plaidforest-21

I think that could work too cause Glimmora kinda seems like a dead weight(more than it already is-)

coralquiver-12

You could lead into TR and decorate, protect decorate

coralquiver-12

and then stored power

coralquiver-12

you can even keep the body press tech

plaidforest-21

Or consider the tailwind mode if you're adamant about Glimmora

plaidforest-21

So you go tailroom

plaidforest-21

I like tailroom personally

warmsummit-58 OP

Yeah, Glimmora is definitely the weak link

@coralquiver-12 You could lead into TR and decorate, protect decorate
warmsummit-58 OP

So are you suggesting running TR, stored power, body pres, and protect on the slowbro?

merrykitten-85
warmsummit-58 OP

Thanks, I hadn't tought about armarouge

warmsummit-58 OP

I'll test it

rapidcipher-81

Entire teams folds to yard

rapidcipher-81

Ngl

rapidcipher-81

Your only year answer

rapidcipher-81

Is amouruge or however you spell it

rapidcipher-81

Even with wideguard you dont stop solar beam or weatherball

rapidcipher-81

I think you need more controlling to yard

rapidcipher-81

The slowbro set is a choice

rapidcipher-81

that doesnt explain the situation

rapidcipher-81

I think prima is good but maybe use g chomp

rapidcipher-81

I think you can always specifically ev sinistcha etc for things

rapidcipher-81

I think you can swap prima for g chomp

rapidcipher-81

Idk how i feel about the armarouge

rapidcipher-81

I dont think you need it but also there probably should be a dual mega option

rapidcipher-81

Farig suits the team if you really wanna lean into the tr mode

rapidcipher-81

Prob bo1

rapidcipher-81

Like noone plays bo3 here

rapidcipher-81

Its okay tbf

rapidcipher-81

Very annoying if your opp misshandles it

rapidcipher-81

T tar doesnt help reallt

happycandle-57

I brought a mega slowbro team to the Los Angelos regionals side event if you want to see it. It wasn’t body press but might be good to help with partners

happycandle-57

My personal favorite slowbro set is calm mind + scald since it makes both defenses quite high, then you just heal

happycandle-57

Of course

happycandle-57

An idea is simple beam audino who goes trick room then simple beam. After you get +6 you mega and click body press

happycandle-57

Curse is weird since iron defense is probably just better

happycandle-57

I think a better set would be iron defense / stored power / body press / slack off

happycandle-57

Stored power can reach good base power after setting up

rapidcipher-81

Literally just run g chomp and another mega

rapidcipher-81

Ye run dual mega

happycandle-57

Do we need weather? What matchups does it help?

happycandle-57

Are either particularly bad for slowbro if he resists both? I think a9 is better for screens since lass can’t really touch slowbro

happycandle-57

I know yard has solar beam and lass has shadow ball

happycandle-57

But a9 screens + encore them into non-spread move isn’t good even if slowbro dies

happycandle-57

Try to use Alolan ninetales instead of ttar. Screens just make bro bulkier and harder to take down

happycandle-57

Sinistcha protect -> life dew
Sneasler protect -> coaching (optional)
Farig hyper voice -> psychic to beat a basc scarfed into last respects
Ninetales set blank -> snow warning / sash / aurora veil / blizzard / encore / protect

happycandle-57

Try the stuff I sent

happycandle-57

Oh and make sneasler 32+ speed

happycandle-57

Yeah, let’s you go 32+ speed and 32 spatk

happycandle-57

The most chances to outspeed opposing sneasler since we’re dropping protect

happycandle-57

At least tie opposing jolly sneasler

happycandle-57

Then it’s fine

happycandle-57

I think we don’t need coaching since it only works on slowbro

happycandle-57

Excluding the defense buff we have no other physical mons

warmsummit-58 OP

I just tested a bit with the zen headbutt set and curse felt wierd

warmsummit-58 OP

I don

happycandle-57

Being honest, body press isn’t the correct way to run him

warmsummit-58 OP

what do you do?

warmsummit-58 OP

you're the regional guy right

warmsummit-58 OP

I just felt like body press streamlines his use as a bulky stick

warmsummit-58 OP

cause his attack stats aren't sanything special

warmsummit-58 OP

Throughout my testing I did find that he works best in TR (kind of a no brainer)

warmsummit-58 OP

I started with an amnesia + iron defense set, but dropped amnesia for TR

warmsummit-58 OP

I don't know what setters are really good to pair with bro, so I just gave it to him

@warmsummit-58 I just felt like body press streamlines his use as a bulky stick
happycandle-57

The best way I found was calm mind scald disruption. Incredible natural physical bulk plus calm mind special bulk makes him a Great Wall that spams scald

warmsummit-58 OP

I like that actually

warmsummit-58 OP

cause getting a burn makes him beetr against physical

@warmsummit-58 I like that actually
happycandle-57

I played him on htr with golurk as a secondary mega. I can give a mock-up if you want

warmsummit-58 OP

Yeah, I wanna see the build to get an idea

warmsummit-58 OP

or something like it

warmsummit-58 OP

When I was making the BP spread, showdown recommended special bulk ev

warmsummit-58 OP

part of the reason I dropped amnesia

warmsummit-58 OP

but i think calm mind changes that

warmsummit-58 OP

I know next to nothing about optimizing ev spereds unfortunately

warmsummit-58 OP

I just put 32/32/2 for verything

happycandle-57

https://pokepast.es/4a28ab8d425a7515

happycandle-57
happycandle-57

Body press you go 32/32/2 always

happycandle-57

Here’s my favorite mega design wise. Sadly he ends up being a bad aggron

warmsummit-58 OP

Nah dw, everything helps

rapidcipher-81

Its all about improvement tbf

rapidcipher-81

See like

rapidcipher-81

Ive topped tournaments

rapidcipher-81

But thats because i practiced and improved

rapidcipher-81

Ive learned for example to read way better

@happycandle-57 https://pokepast.es/4a28ab8d425a7515
warmsummit-58 OP

I just played 11 games with this, netting a 36% win rate

warmsummit-58 OP

my best leads were fakeout + TR

warmsummit-58 OP

I might not understand how to play this version, because slowbrow was barely brought and didn't feel good to play

warmsummit-58 OP

https://pokepast.es/a793d6ba5a736fb2

warmsummit-58 OP

https://pokepast.es/83adbc8ce291f73c

warmsummit-58 OP

Slowbro psychic -> Stored power

warmsummit-58 OP

Farig Psychic, imprison -> Helping hand, Rain dance

warmsummit-58 OP

Sneasler u-turn -> Coaching

warmsummit-58 OP

Ttar empty -> Knock off, rock slide, high horsepower, protect / focus sash

warmsummit-58 OP

Archaludon emplty -> E-shot, Flash Cannon, Dragon Pulse, Protect / leftovers

merrykitten-85

https://pokepast.es/96d8892766fa987a

merrykitten-85

Something like this would work better I think

merrykitten-85

Not sure what should go in last slot

merrykitten-85

Releasing double colbur 😭

warmsummit-58 OP

I like arch to capitalize off of rain dance

warmsummit-58 OP

the thing is that other rain teams screw me, so tyranitar helps

warmsummit-58 OP

especially against the bird

warmsummit-58 OP

as far as incineroar, I'm liking sneasler more becuse of coaching and coverage for dark types that I'm therwise lacking

merrykitten-85

But your team seems to be a trick room team with sneazler ?

Also I don’t imagine sand helps much in rain.
I wouldn’t expect you to have such a rain problem

https://pokepast.es/146c4de3e4353923

warmsummit-58 OP

Yeah, sneasler plays a little awkward inside TR, but I thik the pros of having it when TR ends justify having it onboard

warmsummit-58 OP

I could be coping

warmsummit-58 OP

I've just had some scary mathups into fairy types

merrykitten-85

Yeah incin can nuke them all with helping hands flareblitz too
Intimidate basically gets me out of to many situations
You boost slowbros special defence
Lowering foes attack sounds pretty cool tho awkward into kingambit but incin can deal with him with a flareblitz tho

I think the duel weather kinda spreads you thin

https://pokepast.es/2159ddc16c1cbaaf

merrykitten-85

Also before I judge to much how do you go with it ?

merrykitten-85

What’s your rank and stuff ?

warmsummit-58 OP

I haven't taken it on ladder, just testing in showdown

warmsummit-58 OP

I'm not super high ranked anyway

merrykitten-85

Trust the incin

merrykitten-85

Can do parting shot over close combat

warmsummit-58 OP

Honestly yeah

warmsummit-58 OP

It fits the goal of my tem better like you said

warmsummit-58 OP

debuffing opponent mons and stuff

merrykitten-85

You don’t usuallly need protect on farig in my experience

@merrykitten-85 You don’t usuallly need protect on farig in my experience
warmsummit-58 OP

interesting

merrykitten-85

I accidentally put agility lol 😂

merrykitten-85

Ignore that

warmsummit-58 OP

what would you put in the protect slot?

warmsummit-58 OP

an attack i'm guessing

merrykitten-85

https://pokepast.es/a05b9be890d9c19f

warmsummit-58 OP

I mess with twin beam

warmsummit-58 OP

Earlier I thought about psychic noise, but it seemed a bit situational

cleverinbox-49

Sinistcha and archaladon aren't that slow

warmsummit-58 OP

this i true

cleverinbox-49

Would it make sense to perhaps add a tailwind mon

@warmsummit-58 Earlier I thought about psychic noise, but it seemed a bit situational
merrykitten-85

People keep suggesting psychic noise but not often do I think it would be valuable

warmsummit-58 OP

the effect only lasts two turns right?

@cleverinbox-49 Would it make sense to perhaps add a tailwind mon
warmsummit-58 OP

I don't think it's quite what I'm going for

cleverinbox-49

Oh ok

cleverinbox-49

Well I mean if you want hard tr you could run another tr mega since dual mega is usually better than single mega

merrykitten-85

was going to say pelli could be cool last slot

merrykitten-85

drampa has been fun in this kinda set up haha

warmsummit-58 OP

did you mean to put close combat on incin?

merrykitten-85

no id take it off

merrykitten-85

for parting

warmsummit-58 OP

ok cause you mentioned parting

merrykitten-85

the last slot is kinda important tho i think IB is right a different mega would be best slowbro wouldnt be reliable into ever match

merrykitten-85

every*

@merrykitten-85 drampa has been fun in this kinda set up haha
cleverinbox-49

Ye, but I feel like 5 spa attackers might be asking for trouble

merrykitten-85

indeed. crab and golurk are like the only physical options tho for mega tho right ?

cleverinbox-49

Ye

merrykitten-85

in tr

cleverinbox-49

Doesn't crab have hyper cutter bfore it megas?

merrykitten-85

yep

merrykitten-85

battled it today. they delayed mega to avoid my intim spams lol

cleverinbox-49

Ye, so it is intimidate immune and given incin being kinda decent against hard tr, an intimidate immune fighting type would be good

warmsummit-58 OP

Someone in here had suggested golurk as a second mega

warmsummit-58 OP

his team kinda struggeld against dark types

warmsummit-58 OP

at least when i used it

merrykitten-85

crab learns mach punch too

merrykitten-85

thats his advantage over golurk imo

cleverinbox-49

The only thing is crabs typing means that it will feal more frail than golurk

warmsummit-58 OP

I like crab to counter sinistcha

warmsummit-58 OP

cause that always ends up outliving slowbro when I try to stall

warmsummit-58 OP

so crab could give me a mode that tries to sweep fast wth TR

cleverinbox-49

Ye

warmsummit-58 OP

I don't know anything about good builds for crab though

cleverinbox-49

Mach punch, cc/drain punch, mach punch, prot

cleverinbox-49

Drain punch is better

warmsummit-58 OP

ice hammer as well?

cleverinbox-49

Ye sry

merrykitten-85

Yeah I’ve hammer march punch and I think close combat because his frail anyway then protect

warmsummit-58 OP

when would I potentially want drain over cc?

merrykitten-85

Mirror matches against other tr teams I think haha

merrykitten-85

So you outlive them

warmsummit-58 OP

hmm

warmsummit-58 OP

I'm just trying to think which fits better

merrykitten-85

I really think when you hit with him you just wanna kill something

warmsummit-58 OP

cc's better then

merrykitten-85

Yeah but upto you

warmsummit-58 OP

I can iron it out

warmsummit-58 OP

What do you think for the ev spread?

cleverinbox-49

Drain punch gets boosted by iron fist tho

merrykitten-85

Oh shit ^

merrykitten-85

Max attack max hp sounds about right I don’t imagine you can ev him to tank things like Zard and stuff .

rapidcipher-81

THE CRAB

rapidcipher-81

I LOVE THE CRAB

@merrykitten-85 Max attack max hp sounds about right I don’t imagine you can ev him to tank things like Zard and st…
warmsummit-58 OP

Yeah, but arch should deal with zard

merrykitten-85

Actually he just built one ^

rapidcipher-81

MR CRAB

warmsummit-58 OP

oh nice, a crab enjoyer

@warmsummit-58 oh nice, a crab enjoyer
rapidcipher-81

I just randomly found the shiny ngl

rapidcipher-81

Mega Slowbro Trick Room Team Review

warmsummit-58 OP

fire

cleverinbox-49

You could also maybe try ice punch if you don't wanna risk missing ice hammer but they both get boosted by iron fist so ice hammer prob better

@warmsummit-58 fire
rapidcipher-81

I was at a golurk outbreak 😭

@cleverinbox-49 You could also maybe try ice punch if you don't wanna risk missing ice hammer but they both get boo…
rapidcipher-81

Also lose speed so its good tr

rapidcipher-81

Idk how much you need to underspeed torkoal

rapidcipher-81

Prob 2

@rapidcipher-81 Idk how much you need to underspeed torkoal
merrykitten-85

I think two or something crazy

@rapidcipher-81 Idk how much you need to underspeed torkoal
warmsummit-58 OP

i didn't know that was possible

rapidcipher-81

Ye 1 underspeeds

merrykitten-85

Idk why ice punch sounds better to me

merrykitten-85

Nothing best reliability haha

merrykitten-85

Beats *

rapidcipher-81

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rapidcipher-81

Assuming both are min speed

cleverinbox-49

The 10% chance to miss just makes me have vietnam war flashbacks to icical crash on my mamoswine

merrykitten-85

Yep same that’s my issue . A boosted stab ice punch sounds kinda awesome

cleverinbox-49

I actually used avalanche for a while despite its negative priority due to the accuracy

@merrykitten-85 Yep same that’s my issue . A boosted stab ice punch sounds kinda awesome
rapidcipher-81

75 base power

merrykitten-85

Iron first

merrykitten-85

Stab

merrykitten-85

It’ll hit like a truck no ?

rapidcipher-81

Hammer also gets iron fist

merrykitten-85

Accuracy

merrykitten-85

No one wants to miss

rapidcipher-81

Its only a 10%

merrykitten-85

Fair ig

@rapidcipher-81 Its only a 10%
cleverinbox-49

Thats what they all say

rapidcipher-81

id risk a 10% for a 25 base power increase

cleverinbox-49

If it aint 100% its 50%

merrykitten-85

I just want to know my moves will do what I want them too most of all

@merrykitten-85 I just want to know my moves will do what I want them too most of all
rapidcipher-81

You just spam eruption etc

rapidcipher-81

You click heatwave

rapidcipher-81

You cant be talkin bout reliable

merrykitten-85

I endlessly beat you today

merrykitten-85

And endlessly lost to IB yesterday

@merrykitten-85 I endlessly beat you today
rapidcipher-81

Because i made the team while in the bath tub

rapidcipher-81

😭

merrykitten-85

https://tenor.com/view/shame-bell-game-of-thrones-walk-of-atonement-cersei-lannister-gif-16635977892557113898

@merrykitten-85 And endlessly lost to IB yesterday
cleverinbox-49

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-default-dance-pokemon-fortnite-dance-emote-gif-2545029317203136789

warmsummit-58 OP

Ice hammer lowers speed

warmsummit-58 OP

could be worth it

@merrykitten-85 And endlessly lost to IB yesterday
rapidcipher-81

?!

rapidcipher-81

No

@rapidcipher-81 ?!
merrykitten-85

I meant me lol

rapidcipher-81

Oh

@warmsummit-58 could be worth it
merrykitten-85

Yeah test it for abit and if you’re okay with it then use that for sure

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