Magic Powder Hatterene Trick Room Talk

Summary

In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement dives into a Magic Powder Hatterene Trick Room concept featuring surprise KOs with Mega Golurk poltergeist and Kingambit cleave. The thread shares a Pokepast link, discusses build options, counters to common threats, and team adjustments like Protect, Mystic Fire, or alternative setters. Community feedback focuses on survivability, pairing, and best-of-one viability.

happyxenon-65 OP

I'm trying to do something w/ Hatterene Magic Powder and TR w/ Golurk. This team is super fresh so any advice is appreciated!
https://pokepast.es/7fd5c335485bb15c

merrykitten-85
rapidcipher-81

The hell is magic powder

happyxenon-65 OP

It turns a pokemon into a psychic type

happyxenon-65 OP

The idea is like hatterene sets up trick room and gets magic powder up, and then I can get suprise KO's with either Mega Golurk poltergeist or Kingambit Kowtow Cleave

rapidcipher-81

Weird idea

rapidcipher-81

Might just work in best of 1 tho

merrykitten-85

Oh wow this is hat ! Lemme look

@happyxenon-65 The idea is like hatterene sets up trick room and gets magic powder up, and then I can get suprise…
merrykitten-85

It looks really fun and surprising
That slot on hat is actually pretty interchangeable

I love her crazy special attack stat to I open to make her full offense and it works really well

merrykitten-85

Other things that can go over the magic powder is protect, mystic fire,

I seen after me on a team with a fast pokemon even

happyxenon-65 OP

I can see that, I love hat too

happyxenon-65 OP

My problem is I'm having a lot of trouble keeping them alive, bc hat is weak to the big three

merrykitten-85

I play her in the back always tbh. For this reason

I use farig to set trick room

merrykitten-85

It’s just so reliable at not dying

happyxenon-65 OP

So even w/ a kind of max bulk hat that can click magic powder (which i was kinda going for) I'm having trouble

happyxenon-65 OP

Agreed

@merrykitten-85 Oh wow this is hat ! Lemme look
rapidcipher-81

☠️ never this enthusiastic on tr teams till now

happyxenon-65 OP

I'm thinking maybe swap the matcha? They're weak to a lot of what hat is...

@rapidcipher-81 ☠️ never this enthusiastic on tr teams till now
merrykitten-85

It’s the hat lol

happyxenon-65 OP

also araquinid has felt a bit weak

happyxenon-65 OP

I love the hat as well, fav pokemon from gen 8

merrykitten-85

Our teams are really similar

I dropped golurk he felt really unreliable

happyxenon-65 OP

what mega are you using?

merrykitten-85

Drampa

merrykitten-85

You need torkoal but that’s just my opinion

happyxenon-65 OP

Could I see your TR

happyxenon-65 OP

I played it a lot last game but its really weak rn

happyxenon-65 OP

I have this mega chandy team that's TR/tailwind that's my favorite at the moment

merrykitten-85

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merrykitten-85

The conk slot is very interchangeable

King is best their tbh

merrykitten-85

I see you’re using sinis over farig too
I felt I needed farig just for the prio protection in trick room or they’ll waste my important turns

happyxenon-65 OP

What if instead of conk your last pokemon was mega crab?

merrykitten-85

Yeah that works
Mostly because he has Mach punch so he fills the role perfectly

merrykitten-85

Needed some priority for the end games if tr runs out and they only got a little bit left

@happyxenon-65 What if instead of conk your last pokemon was mega crab?
rapidcipher-81

MEGA CRABBBBB

happyxenon-65 OP

I have a really shit mega crab team I like using actually

happyxenon-65 OP

like really bad

happyxenon-65 OP

https://pokepast.es/078e60dddfaec109

@happyxenon-65 I have a really shit mega crab team I like using actually
rapidcipher-81

I just theory crafted https://pokepast.es/1086beae793674db

rapidcipher-81

Only reason im doing ts

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happyxenon-65 OP

that team is sick as hell actually

merrykitten-85

Ice fighting is really offensive on the crab too

@merrykitten-85 Ice fighting is really offensive on the crab too
rapidcipher-81

You think ☠️

happyxenon-65 OP

oh wait also

happyxenon-65 OP

I think thunder punch might be better on the conk instead of ice

@happyxenon-65 that team is sick as hell actually
rapidcipher-81

Whatcha like about it 😭

happyxenon-65 OP

wait does he learnt hat

@happyxenon-65 I think thunder punch might be better on the conk instead of ice
rapidcipher-81

Its for sini he says

@rapidcipher-81 Whatcha like about it 😭
happyxenon-65 OP

accelrock

@happyxenon-65 accelrock
rapidcipher-81

🐐 roc

happyxenon-65 OP

ahh makes since

merrykitten-85

LycanTrash 👀

rapidcipher-81

https://pokepast.es/790dcf707c7ea93c

happyxenon-65 OP

We're losing the plot a little bit

@merrykitten-85 LycanTrash 👀
rapidcipher-81

Can we get a ban

happyxenon-65 OP

But I would also like some maybe advice on that chandy team

happyxenon-65 OP

https://pokepast.es/426f3f63df87c1df

rapidcipher-81

OMG

rapidcipher-81

Tailroom

happyxenon-65 OP

It was cooler when I had Mr. Rime instead of farig but he was too weak

rapidcipher-81

WAIT LEMME COOK

rapidcipher-81

MY FAVORITE

merrykitten-85

It’s got all the right bits from a glance just them mons are straight up hard to use

rapidcipher-81

Quick question

merrykitten-85

Awkward speed tiers and stuff

rapidcipher-81

Would you like to ruin your entire ev spread just to survive adamant dire claw with the xerneas jr jr

rapidcipher-81

😭

happyxenon-65 OP

im down actually

happyxenon-65 OP

tbh I stole the ev spread from jamie boyt

rapidcipher-81

32 hp 26 defence

rapidcipher-81

If your not bold

rapidcipher-81

You can run i think its 8 modest

happyxenon-65 OP

maybe I can drop a bit of speed

happyxenon-65 OP

I'm bad at speed tiers

rapidcipher-81

XERNEAS JR JR (Sylveon) @ Fairy Feather
Ability: Pixilate
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 32 HP / 26 Def / 8 SpA
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Hyper Voice
- Quick Attack
- Yawn

happyxenon-65 OP

how fast should sylv be to be good in tw

@happyxenon-65 how fast should sylv be to be good in tw
rapidcipher-81

Your with no investment 80

rapidcipher-81

Lemme check

rapidcipher-81

Smth

rapidcipher-81

You can go 85 to outspeed max speed g chomps but i think you need too much investment with less damage

rapidcipher-81

Idk

rapidcipher-81

You can go 3 modest ig

happyxenon-65 OP

That should maybe be fine

happyxenon-65 OP

bc I have calm mind

happyxenon-65 OP

maybe

happyxenon-65 OP

Sylveon @ Fairy Feather
Ability: Pixilate
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 26 Def / 3 SpA / 5 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Hyper Beam
- Calm Mind
- Detect

rapidcipher-81

True

rapidcipher-81

You dont outspeed scarf chomps

rapidcipher-81

Just normal jolly chomps

rapidcipher-81

Max jolly is 169

happyxenon-65 OP

shit

@happyxenon-65 shit
rapidcipher-81

Tbf scarf chomp is fast af

happyxenon-65 OP

I'm gonna go back to the OG set chomp is so bad for me

rapidcipher-81

Your never catching it with sylveon

@happyxenon-65 I'm gonna go back to the OG set chomp is so bad for me
rapidcipher-81

I use og chomp too its okay

happyxenon-65 OP

but other than that does it look okay?

happyxenon-65 OP

I was using torkoal for a long time but it felt kind of redundant

happyxenon-65 OP

So I put sunny day on whimsicott and then suck ass against rain

happyxenon-65 OP

highkey the biggest problems for this team is rain and garchomp

ironpixel-34

Your team is very similar design to my early tr teams.
I used mega Crab to climb to masterball in the first season it was very easy and he destroys chomp and pretty much anything in his way

ironpixel-34

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ironpixel-34

I found torkoal as a great late game clean up mon or something to remove weather but I also only brought him occasionally.

My whole strategy was bring crab and drain punch everything to death 🤣 when I couldnt bring golurk. Ice Punch on golurk for chomp too

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