Pokémon VGC Regulation M Team Building & Strategy Advice

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server hosts a deep dive into Regulation M team building. This announcement features a community member seeking strategic advice on a rain-based team featuring Golisopod, Pelipper, and Archaludon. The discussion covers essential competitive matchups against sun-rain cores, sand teams, and popular meta threats, providing valuable insights for trainers looking to optimize their squads for upcoming tournaments.

dustymaple-74 OP

Im hoping to bring this team for the upcoming tournament so i want some advice on changes i can do to the team
Ill do my best interpretation of my current team
(Havent settled on evs)

M GOLISOPOD

Running swords dance to boost my attack
Leech life for healing and liquadation to hit fire types
Setup guy

PELIPPER

Hits fire types for super effective damage
Sets up rain and provides good supportive tools like tailwind and wide guard

ARCHAULDON

Takes advantage of the rain
Another setup option and a good special attacker

GRIMMSNARL

Sets screens to increase my bulky attackers bulk and completes my fantasy core
Gives me a relatively bulky switch in

BASCULEIGON

An offensive mon w good offensive abilities
Patches up matchups aganist gholdengo and other ghost types( and fire types)
Hits hard w wave crash in the rain

GARCHOMP

Helps aganist zard y and raichu and hisuian arcinane
Good offensive coverage and gives me access to some spread damage

Main idea/gameplan:Boost up w golisopod or arch maintain weather control and deal consistent damage with basc or chomp

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dustymaple-74 OP
dustymaple-74 OP

I run it for fires but i could try iron head or cc to hit opposing steels

applelizard-61

Like the idea but im interested in few matchups from your perspecitve, first sunrain team that finished second in Baltimore, second Staraptor Yaichu with H Arcanine, Sneasler with Grassy seed next to Rilla also how would you deal with most sand teams?

@applelizard-61 Like the idea but im interested in few matchups from your perspecitve, first sunrain team that fini…
dustymaple-74 OP

Ive acc played aganist those teams on ladder
Aganist the sunrain team i bring arch grim chomp and pelipper and aim to knock out their zard mitigate the power of arch and postion for an endgame where my chomp and arch are facing off a low hp or not boosted arch
This matchup is even and all i need to do is play well

@applelizard-61 Like the idea but im interested in few matchups from your perspecitve, first sunrain team that fini…
dustymaple-74 OP

And aganist the Staraptor Yaichu team its a bit of a tough matchup w rilla and yaichu being able to cook me hard if im not too careful
How ill deal w them is to use chomp to get rid of yaichu golisopod to deal w rilla
Basculeigon for some good burst damage and peli/grim depending on what i felt was right

dustymaple-74 OP

And w sand teams ill use golisopod to deal w ttar and possibly exacrdill and indeedee if they have it
Pelipper for wide guard support and weather control
Garchomp to deal w most of the team giving me good ground damage into most sand teams
Arch/basc/grimm depending on the team
Id say this matchup is a good one

dustymaple-74 OP

Matches w this team have gone alr but ive lost a couple of games thanks to losing plays and bad leads and brings

dustymaple-74 OP

So ill probably need more practice matches

@dustymaple-74 Ive acc played aganist those teams on ladder Aganist the sunrain team i bring arch grim chomp and p…
applelizard-61

Oh so you would deal with them like that

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah thats my rough gameplan

applelizard-61

Is basc even what good for the team?

@applelizard-61 Is basc even what good for the team?
dustymaple-74 OP

It gives me more answers to fire type mons gives me a way to hit ghosts like gholdengo but im free to change that slot with a mon you would like instead

applelizard-61

No no it's your team I just want to hear your thoughts

dustymaple-74 OP

Oh ok

dustymaple-74 OP

But i would like some more special spread damage to the team

dustymaple-74 OP

Since most of my team is weak to intimitade

dustymaple-74 OP

Or maybe some way of deterring it

applelizard-61

Which one would you change

dustymaple-74 OP

Maybe basc or chomp

applelizard-61

How so

dustymaple-74 OP

Idk which mon to change it for

dustymaple-74 OP

Do you got any ideas?

applelizard-61

Id have to look into it more but both Arch and Pelli do good as they are special

dustymaple-74 OP

Ill play some games to figure out whats feelin wrong w the team

applelizard-61

Do tell me so I can help out

applelizard-61

I've seen this archetype be played with Zard Y Farig

applelizard-61

Instead of Chomp Basc

dustymaple-74 OP

Oh okk

@applelizard-61 Do tell me so I can help out
dustymaple-74 OP

Alr thanks

applelizard-61

I'm trying out my teams so I'd propose to play against me but I play some weird shit but I can make a few teams to test it out

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah can we play tmr on showdown at 4pm?

dustymaple-74 OP

To test out the team

applelizard-61

What is your time rn?

dustymaple-74 OP

9pm

@dustymaple-74 9pm
applelizard-61

1 hour difference

applelizard-61

If we can do it on Saturday after like 7pm would be great

applelizard-61

It's 10pm for me rn

@applelizard-61 If we can do it on Saturday after like 7pm would be great
dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah saturday at 7pm?

applelizard-61

So would be 6pm for you

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah

dustymaple-74 OP

So 7pm at Saturday?

applelizard-61

yes

applelizard-61

We can figure out the teams than

applelizard-61

And play

applelizard-61

I got exams on saturday plus gotta study until than

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr good luck on your exams?

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr good luck on your exams

applelizard-61

Thank you bro

dustymaple-74 OP

No problem

CommunityOne
applelizard-61

Depends on what you want honestly

applelizard-61

His team is rain or die team imo but it's very good

applelizard-61

Yes that is one reason the other is that mega swampert has swift swim and needs rain to work

dustymaple-74 OP

Not rlly

dustymaple-74 OP

Im still kinda new aswell

applelizard-61

Pelliper is best when there is a good situation for Archaludon to snowball to stack up on electro shot

applelizard-61

And you help Goli survive

applelizard-61

So you can do that also

applelizard-61

Pelli is generally good

applelizard-61

Especially next to arch and Goli

applelizard-61

I dont tho but you can

applelizard-61

There is some cases it is used

applelizard-61

I can try and help you

applelizard-61

Helping you team build and explaining how it works

applelizard-61

You can make your own thread or we can use this one so I can help both if OP is godo with that

@applelizard-61 Helping you team build and explaining how it works
dustymaple-74 OP

Is it alr if u explain to me the teambuilding process aswell?

@dustymaple-74 Is it alr if u explain to me the teambuilding process aswell?
applelizard-61

Of course

applelizard-61

I can help you both

applelizard-61

You are both running mega im most familiar with

dustymaple-74 OP

Thanks bro

applelizard-61

Anytime

applelizard-61

Tho I have exams today so after that I'm free

applelizard-61

Thank you

applelizard-61

yall here?

applelizard-61

Did you copy the team?

@applelizard-61 yall here?
dustymaple-74 OP

Sorry I was sleeping

dustymaple-74 OP

can we test teams at 7 or 8pm today?

@dustymaple-74 can we test teams at 7 or 8pm today?
applelizard-61

Yea we can

@dustymaple-74 Sorry I was sleeping
applelizard-61

Thats fine

applelizard-61

Just wanted to make sure

applelizard-61

This team is a great starting point

applelizard-61

And its nicelt built

applelizard-61

Cest

applelizard-61

It's 12 42 for me

applelizard-61

And he is I think one hour behind us

@applelizard-61 And he is I think one hour behind us
dustymaple-74 OP

Yh i think so cuz its 12 17 for me rn

applelizard-61

Yea 13 17 for ys

applelizard-61

I'll answer soon

applelizard-61

Just had to do something

dustymaple-74 OP

Me too cuz in most games basc dosent even come

dustymaple-74 OP

But idk what to replace basc

applelizard-61

Hmmm thats a good question

applelizard-61

Id say Farigiraf may be the answer tbh

applelizard-61

Very good Pokemon in general

@applelizard-61 Id say Farigiraf may be the answer tbh
dustymaple-74 OP

I want smth thats more offensive in damage and that can hit gholdengo

dustymaple-74 OP

But i could try farig

@dustymaple-74 I want smth thats more offensive in damage and that can hit gholdengo
applelizard-61

Why is that

dustymaple-74 OP

Cuz i feel like gholdengo is a tough mon for my team to deal with

applelizard-61

Send the team again please

dustymaple-74 OP

Okk

dustymaple-74 OP

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applelizard-61

I think changing Basc to some other mon that covers that matchup is goo

applelizard-61

Good

applelizard-61

Tho itself can beat it

applelizard-61

You know fight fire with fire

applelizard-61

Tho ill have to look into it a bit more

@applelizard-61 Tho ill have to look into it a bit more
dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

applelizard-61

Im currently a judge for the tourney

applelizard-61

So after it ends Ill do some things

dustymaple-74 OP

Thats true tho

dustymaple-74 OP

But i feel like grimm and incin fill the same supportive role yk?

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah

@dustymaple-74 But i feel like grimm and incin fill the same supportive role yk?
applelizard-61

Kinda similar

applelizard-61

Wouldnt use it

applelizard-61

You can run Z Chomp if you want that ig

applelizard-61

Can be

applelizard-61

Will do so

applelizard-61

It kinda fits and doesnt at the same time as in most cases you wouldnt bring him into the matchups yk

applelizard-61

As you are bringing either pelli arch grimm and Goli into less fire coverag

applelizard-61

and you are bringing Chomp into where fire coverage is more yk

applelizard-61

We can find one mon that competes with Grimm that does somethig a bit differently

applelizard-61

And use Chomp Z as secondary mega

applelizard-61

Huhh why

applelizard-61

It it a match made in heaven

applelizard-61

I mean fun part of Arch is it isnt weak into fire or fairy

applelizard-61

I mea you generally would like tailwind against mons that archaludon wants to outspeed yk

ironpanther-10

hi

applelizard-61

Goli can work in tailwind had an idea with that actually that sacrificed attack for it

@ironpanther-10 hi
applelizard-61

Hi banjo

ironpanther-10

hows the team progressing

applelizard-61

Its good

applelizard-61

Got the core rain team locked

applelizard-61

Plus added Garchomp Z

applelizard-61

tryna figure out the last spot and kinda leaning into Gholdengo to win mirrors

ironpanther-10

did even read everything

applelizard-61

I think he didnt

ironpanther-10

:OCO:

applelizard-61

Tho I asked if they are fine with me helping both in this thread

applelizard-61

If he wants me to divide them its fine

@applelizard-61 I think he didnt
dustymaple-74 OP

Yh i didnt yet

@applelizard-61 Tho I asked if they are fine with me helping both in this thread
dustymaple-74 OP

Its alr w me

@dustymaple-74 Yh i didnt yet
applelizard-61

Yea thats fine by me as long as you do

applelizard-61

If you want to give your takes as well its good

applelizard-61

I want to hear your thoughts

applelizard-61

It does but I think it can pick up an OHKO

applelizard-61

Cant

applelizard-61

Mb

@applelizard-61 Plus added Garchomp Z
dustymaple-74 OP

I was also thinkin on adding chomp z

@dustymaple-74 I was also thinkin on adding chomp z
applelizard-61

Very good secondary

dustymaple-74 OP

But who is gonna replace basc if u guys got any ideas

applelizard-61

Thats what we are figuring out

applelizard-61

Gholdengo jumps out

applelizard-61

As it likes rain as its weak to fire

applelizard-61

And it can check other ghost types

applelizard-61

Yea but can it survive shadow ball after disguise is broken?

applelizard-61

Than its not a best option

applelizard-61

Tho I think we can just add Farig when we want trick room and let Chomp Z deal with Gholdengos

applelizard-61

Viable path is adding Gholdengo

applelizard-61

That is true

applelizard-61

Gholdengos are built bulky now

applelizard-61

So they can tank hits set up and sweep

applelizard-61

Can you calc if Garchomp Z with earth power can OHKO Gholdengo

applelizard-61
applelizard-61

What evs are more popular on Ghold now?

applelizard-61

Hmmmm

applelizard-61

Really not sure on the ghold spread

applelizard-61

Dark type it is

applelizard-61

Kingambit

applelizard-61

Appreciates rain

applelizard-61

Very good mon all around

applelizard-61

Can you calc it to kill 24hp/11def

applelizard-61

Gholdengo

applelizard-61

Try lorb first

applelizard-61

Thats a good chance tbh

applelizard-61

Only fighting types

applelizard-61

It dies with lorb tick

dustymaple-74 OP

And gambit can deter intimitade w defiant

applelizard-61

Only Goli is affected

applelizard-61

No one else

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr so is gambit replacing basc

applelizard-61

That would be yet I think

applelizard-61

If you want we can do some battles

@applelizard-61 If you want we can do some battles
dustymaple-74 OP

Sure

applelizard-61

Ill make few meta teams

applelizard-61

And also will try out few of mine

dustymaple-74 OP

Would we just do a 4 attack gambit or sd set?

applelizard-61

We can do Kowtow sucker protect plus one

dustymaple-74 OP

Yh

dustymaple-74 OP

What abt evs?

applelizard-61

What evs did you use to calc?

applelizard-61

Yes its special

applelizard-61

Adamant?

applelizard-61

25Hp 32 Atk 9Def

@applelizard-61 25Hp 32 Atk 9Def
dustymaple-74 OP

Alr thx

dustymaple-74 OP

We do it on showdown?

@dustymaple-74 We do it on showdown?
applelizard-61

Yes

applelizard-61

Ill just have to make teams

dustymaple-74 OP

Okk

dustymaple-74 OP

My name on showdown is Thatrainguy

@dustymaple-74 My name on showdown is Thatrainguy
applelizard-61

Sent you an invite

applelizard-61

Says its offline

applelizard-61

Protect Power gem earth power Dragon pulse or Draco meteor

applelizard-61

For spreads I think Modest with 32SpA 2Spe and 32 Hp

@applelizard-61 Says its offline
dustymaple-74 OP

Do i just send you the invite if it dosent work for u?

applelizard-61

01010101na

applelizard-61

Sure here is my name

applelizard-61

if you want to watch you are more than welcome

applelizard-61

I can stream it

applelizard-61

Just @ me when you want and I'll do it

applelizard-61

great

applelizard-61

Ill start with this one

dustymaple-74 OP

Ggs

applelizard-61

Was very good

applelizard-61

Gg

applelizard-61

How did the team feel

dustymaple-74 OP

It felt GOODDX

dustymaple-74 OP

It rlly matched my playstyle

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah sure

applelizard-61

I'm making a Yaichu plus Z chomp team gimme a sec

@applelizard-61 I'm making a Yaichu plus Z chomp team gimme a sec
dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

@dustymaple-74 Alr
applelizard-61

Made the team

applelizard-61

Grimmsnarl is better into fire types

applelizard-61

Into psyspam?

applelizard-61

When you don't know what to lead grimmsnarl plus arch is best with pelli in the back

applelizard-61

Yes

applelizard-61

I'd say low kick

applelizard-61

To win mirror

applelizard-61

Yes that would be true

applelizard-61

Power gem yes

applelizard-61

How did it feel

@applelizard-61 How did it feel
dustymaple-74 OP

Good

@dustymaple-74 Good
applelizard-61

Nice reads

dustymaple-74 OP

Thx

dustymaple-74 OP

Do we go for one more game?

applelizard-61

Id like to try one more game

applelizard-61

With my team

applelizard-61

Gimme asec

dustymaple-74 OP

Okk

applelizard-61

Send the invite

applelizard-61

I can stream tho my loptop goes slower

applelizard-61

I got my team ready

applelizard-61

You can join the vc or even better I can send yo the link of the battle

applelizard-61

Next time than

applelizard-61

Ill save the replay of this battle than

applelizard-61

Forgot the others

applelizard-61

I can run the teams against you too

applelizard-61

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmcbo3-2688831310

applelizard-61

First game

applelizard-61

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmcbo3-2688834953

applelizard-61

Second game

applelizard-61

You played well

dustymaple-74 OP

Srry smth came up suddenly

applelizard-61

Yea thats fine

dustymaple-74 OP

Are u up for a game still?

applelizard-61

Yup

@applelizard-61 You played well
dustymaple-74 OP

Thx u too

applelizard-61

Same team?

applelizard-61

This is my GC team tho it will be changed

applelizard-61

Also one thing

applelizard-61

You rely too much on Archaludon sometimes

applelizard-61

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmcbo3-2688837657

applelizard-61

Game 1 second set

applelizard-61

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmcbo3-2688840099

applelizard-61

Game 2

applelizard-61

Forgot about cc

applelizard-61

Damn

dustymaple-74 OP

Ggs that was close

applelizard-61

Forgot cc

applelizard-61

Just wanted to try incin into this message

applelizard-61

Its just worse than Rilla

dustymaple-74 OP

True

applelizard-61

Just wanted to try the team

applelizard-61

Thank you

dustymaple-74 OP

Imma hop off for tonight tho

@applelizard-61 Thank you
dustymaple-74 OP

Npp

applelizard-61

Will try and better up my team to challenge you again

applelizard-61

Sounds great

applelizard-61

Im not free until for few days

applelizard-61

Got classes yk

applelizard-61

So ill have to do it next week

applelizard-61

Yea thank you so much have last exams on sunday so I have to wait until than

applelizard-61

Thank youu

applelizard-61

Send the team again just so I can see

applelizard-61

Just to see what we are working again

dustymaple-74 OP

This is the updated version of the team featuring farigriaf over grimmsnarl
Feel free to suggest any changes or tweaks that could improve the team as a whole

Pokémon VGC Regulation M Team Building & Strategy Advice

applelizard-61

This one looks very good

@applelizard-61 This one looks very good
dustymaple-74 OP

Thanks bro

dustymaple-74 OP

Is there any glaring weaknesses in general though?

applelizard-61

What would you say is farigs job on this team

@applelizard-61 What would you say is farigs job on this team
dustymaple-74 OP

I would say that farig is mainly here to set up tr for kingambit and golisopod block priority and it allows me to helping hand+ blow up a lot of stuff up with zchomp

@dustymaple-74 I would say that farig is mainly here to set up tr for kingambit and golisopod block priority and i…
applelizard-61

Does having trick room pay off mostly?

@applelizard-61 Does having trick room pay off mostly?
dustymaple-74 OP

I havent done enough pratice with the team yet but id say it pays off since the team is overall slow

@dustymaple-74 I havent done enough pratice with the team yet but id say it pays off since the team is overall slow
applelizard-61

Is it bulky enough to survive

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah it can definitely survive turns

dustymaple-74 OP

Dosent feel frail to me

applelizard-61

You have both tailwind and trick room

@applelizard-61 You have both tailwind and trick room
dustymaple-74 OP

True mb grimm would be alr to keep

applelizard-61

No no

applelizard-61

Its fine

applelizard-61

I just want to see you justify it

applelizard-61

There are teams that both Grimm and Farig go together

applelizard-61

I just want to see why you think its good

dustymaple-74 OP

Okk

applelizard-61

I'm figuring out my team rn

applelizard-61

Got 3 different variations where the differences are two mons

applelizard-61

Mostly

@applelizard-61 Got 3 different variations where the differences are two mons
dustymaple-74 OP

Can you show them?

applelizard-61

When I get home I will

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/9487f36ce069263f

applelizard-61

Here is the first one Floette

applelizard-61

I still havent decided on last mons for any team

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/f3b3677b5f050b8a

applelizard-61

Zard Y

applelizard-61

Golisopod @ Golisopite
Ability: Emergency Exit
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 Def
Adamant Nature
- Leech Life
- Drill Run
- Iron Head
- Protect

Archaludon @ Leftovers
Ability: Stamina
EVs: 32 HP / 7 Def / 3 SpA / 16 SpD / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Snarl
- Electro Shot
- Protect

Pelipper @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Modest Nature
- Weather Ball
- Hurricane
- Protect
- Wide Guard

Pangoro @ Expert Belt
Ability: Scrappy
Level: 50
Adamant Nature
- Darkest Lariat
- Close Combat
- Detect
- Parting Shot

Swampert-Mega @ Swampertite
Ability: Torrent
Level: 50
Adamant Nature
- Wave Crash
- Ice Punch
- Protect
- High Horsepower

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/05c3e43961820363

applelizard-61

Swamp one

applelizard-61

On neither if this team there is a clear answer for last mon

applelizard-61

Very open and im not sure what im going to do

applelizard-61

You copied from this thread ?

applelizard-61

Yo bro whats your spreads on this team

dustymaple-74 OP

The spreads arent optimized yet so they could be improved

Pokémon VGC Regulation M Team Building & Strategy Advice

applelizard-61

Why 3 speed?

@applelizard-61 Why 3 speed?
dustymaple-74 OP

To outspeed other golisopod but i may remove those points since ill have tr

@dustymaple-74 To outspeed other golisopod but i may remove those points since ill have tr
applelizard-61

Isn't it better to go after so you can heal it off?

@applelizard-61 Isn't it better to go after so you can heal it off?
dustymaple-74 OP

Fair point

applelizard-61

Tho thee is a risk of dying as well xd

applelizard-61

Most times you need to kill bulky

applelizard-61

They are more bulky

dustymaple-74 OP

Cuz since goilso is so slow sucker punch helps it to atleast deal good damage before my opponents attack and is like u said useful in gholdengo and other ghost types

dustymaple-74 OP

Ill have to check it

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah and it would allow it to take on 2v1 better in the endgame

applelizard-61

Tho you will sometimes get into the guessing games so be careful

@applelizard-61 Tho you will sometimes get into the guessing games so be careful
dustymaple-74 OP

Thats true

applelizard-61

No

@dustymaple-74 Thats true
applelizard-61

Had it happen

applelizard-61

Went for 9 turns

applelizard-61

Yes

applelizard-61

Most of my teams are for ots

@applelizard-61 Went for 9 turns
dustymaple-74 OP

Damnnnn thats long

@dustymaple-74 Damnnnn thats long
applelizard-61

Was against Gholdengo

applelizard-61

We both set up to +6

applelizard-61

Why so

applelizard-61

We can hop in some games when I get home if you want

applelizard-61

I got 3 secondarys I need to test

applelizard-61

Not sure who I like tbh

applelizard-61

Anyone wanna run some battles rn?

applelizard-61

I want to see how the teams go

@applelizard-61 Anyone wanna run some battles rn?
dustymaple-74 OP

I cant i gotta project to do

applelizard-61

Tho Ill only be playing on showdown

@dustymaple-74 I cant i gotta project to do
applelizard-61

Thats fine have fun and do it great

@applelizard-61 Thats fine have fun and do it great
dustymaple-74 OP

Thanks bro

dustymaple-74 OP

you guys free to run some battles on showdown?

applelizard-61

Lemme finish up games on valo and I can

dustymaple-74 OP

Okk

applelizard-61

Yo I finished

applelizard-61
dustymaple-74 OP

Yup

dustymaple-74 OP

U ready?

applelizard-61

Gimme a sec to finish up a team

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

applelizard-61

Send your username

dustymaple-74 OP

fomerseas

applelizard-61

Doesnt pop up for me

dustymaple-74 OP

Do i just send u it?

applelizard-61

Sure

applelizard-61

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glgl

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applelizard-61

First game

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Second game

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Third

dustymaple-74 OP

Ggs

applelizard-61

Read me on the last turn

applelizard-61

ggs

dustymaple-74 OP

I gtg now

applelizard-61

Ye thats fine

dustymaple-74 OP

you guys up for some games on showdown?

applelizard-61

I might have to pass this time

applelizard-61

Tho save the replay I wanna go over it later

@applelizard-61 I might have to pass this time
dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

@applelizard-61 Tho save the replay I wanna go over it later
dustymaple-74 OP

Okk

dustymaple-74 OP

Bet tell me when your ready

@dustymaple-74 Okk
applelizard-61

Thanks

dustymaple-74 OP

you guys up for some games?

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah ill probs be free just let me know when ur free

applelizard-61

I'm not sure how active I'll be fighting wise

dustymaple-74 OP

is it allowed for me to post another team here thats different from goliso?

dustymaple-74 OP

Or can i create another thread to post the different team i have in mind?

applelizard-61

Of course you can

applelizard-61

I'll help out

dustymaple-74 OP

Ill send it then

applelizard-61

Tho I'll see to it when I get home

dustymaple-74 OP

The main idea is that staraptor can be brought aganist sand and matchups that delphox hates and they synergise pretty well together
Delphox with nasty plot can set up and sweep
But now idk what to add next
Ideally i would like some speed control fake out redirection and probs more offense

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applelizard-61

I'll see

applelizard-61

Sun/rain teams or just general sun teams

applelizard-61

Hmmm

applelizard-61

I think that that is just matchup knowldge

applelizard-61

You have to play and be ready for certain things

applelizard-61

Thats great way to start

applelizard-61

Best ways to get better is to play more people with OTS

applelizard-61

So you can know what to expect

applelizard-61

Open team sheet

applelizard-61

Yea very good thinf

applelizard-61

Its very good in some mathups ofc

applelizard-61

All depends on the play style tbh

applelizard-61

I'd generally say no

applelizard-61

Assurance doubles in power if the user got hit right

applelizard-61

It is a contact move as well so yea seems like it would be great but it runs into a problem of you would much rather click leech life, iron head or even drill run or sucker so yea just

applelizard-61

Too many good moves

applelizard-61

Tho yes drill run can miss but it has increased crit ratio

dustymaple-74 OP

This is an updated version of the team,replacing kingambit for gholdengo
Why I did so was that gholdengo gives my team spread damage, a more favourable matchup into fighting types, and a sleep powder immunity
Ill have to test and see if gholdengo is the right choice tho and aganist opposing gholdengo ill need to play carefully

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How are you playing mirror match ups

@applelizard-61 How are you playing mirror match ups
dustymaple-74 OP

Idk yet but would you be free to play so i can get some practice aganist the mirror match?

@dustymaple-74 Idk yet but would you be free to play so i can get some practice aganist the mirror match?
applelizard-61

Just send me the whole team in dma

dustymaple-74 OP

https://pokepast.es/3a3c4d017b703f57

dustymaple-74 OP

Heres the team

dustymaple-74 OP

I havent decided on evs on gholdengo yet

applelizard-61

You can either choose a bulky one or a fast one

@applelizard-61 You can either choose a bulky one or a fast one
dustymaple-74 OP

Id say a fast one

dustymaple-74 OP

Do u have the evs for that?

applelizard-61

No but I can try and find it

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/e1f5fc4356d34a1f

applelizard-61

This is what is most used

applelizard-61

Ill make a few changes I think on this team just so you know

applelizard-61

I changed two moves

applelizard-61

Drill run instead of SD on Goli and flame thrower instead of Earth power on ChompZ

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr thanks

applelizard-61

Whenever you are ready for some games tag me

applelizard-61

You up to play or watch?

applelizard-61

Also saw you were in the thread bro but nothing from then you up to watch or play?

applelizard-61

Other Golisopods tbh

applelizard-61

Only reason tbh

applelizard-61

Wdym?

applelizard-61

Could you reidirate a question

applelizard-61

Ahhh

applelizard-61

Flamethrower is for other golis

applelizard-61

Drill run is here for other steel types and Incin

applelizard-61

Yea its just a playstyle for me

applelizard-61

Can you send your team again

applelizard-61

I think its a bit different than Mikeys

applelizard-61

Are you okay with running a few games on showdown?

applelizard-61

I wanna see how you play into sun\rain

applelizard-61

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applelizard-61

This is the spread I was running

applelizard-61

Its just bulk with no attacking move xD

dustymaple-74 OP

are u up for some games?

@dustymaple-74 are u up for some games?
applelizard-61

Yup just gimme a sec

@applelizard-61 Yup just gimme a sec
dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

applelizard-61

Gotta finish up my team on showdown

applelizard-61

I finished it up

dustymaple-74 OP

Ok alr

dustymaple-74 OP

Whats ur showdown name?

applelizard-61

01010101na

applelizard-61

As always

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applelizard-61

Can yiu enter it like this?

applelizard-61

Thats fine

applelizard-61

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmcbo3-2699001528-ntkjqgyx2v03p79dvt1t0b028ulrv0apw

applelizard-61

Seems like a struggle a bit

dustymaple-74 OP

Lowkey i could have played better

applelizard-61

Yup agreed on that

applelizard-61

Im not really sure why you brought Goli to game 1

dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah in this matchup im not supposed to bring goli

dustymaple-74 OP

Thats smth i learnt

applelizard-61

Yea thats just matchup knowledge

applelizard-61

With time you will iron it out

applelizard-61

Lemme look at what other teams I have

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr tell me when ur ready?

applelizard-61

Okay I got one Yaichu Goli team

applelizard-61

I can make a few other meta teams tho it will take time

applelizard-61

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@applelizard-61 I can make a few other meta teams tho it will take time
dustymaple-74 OP

Can we do one more in a few mins i need a break after all that

applelizard-61

HAHAHAHH

applelizard-61

Of course

applelizard-61

Ill play some agaisnt LordSponge in the meantime

dustymaple-74 OP

are you up for one more set

applelizard-61

Special

@dustymaple-74 are you up for one more set
applelizard-61

Gimme a sec just so see somethinf

applelizard-61

Im not sure its the right avenue

applelizard-61

Thats fine with all the Yards running around

applelizard-61

Im mostly facing Yards and Yaichu with some psy spams

applelizard-61

So I use Yard more often

applelizard-61

But whenever I get the chance I use it

applelizard-61

Yea the core 4 of forcing rain is very good

applelizard-61

I have to finish one set and than we can

dustymaple-74 OP

Alr

applelizard-61

Helping people prep is wow

dustymaple-74 OP

you finished yet?

applelizard-61

Yea finished

applelizard-61

Tell me when tall can

applelizard-61

Yall

applelizard-61
applelizard-61
@applelizard-61 Tell me when tall can
dustymaple-74 OP

Yeah im ready now

applelizard-61

Sent it

applelizard-61

ggs

dustymaple-74 OP

Ggs

dustymaple-74 OP

Imma hop off i lowkey had enough bo3 for today

applelizard-61

Thats fine

applelizard-61

I like it

applelizard-61

Its a nice team

applelizard-61

Usually 20\14 split is good but this one should be as well

applelizard-61

Tho id have to calc it to be sure

applelizard-61

But at the first glance is good

applelizard-61

Yes

dustymaple-74 OP

Ive just thought of a mega pairing that could work, which is delphox and lucario z
Lucario deals with kingambit and incin but both cant rlly touch basc, so rilla would probably be added
And id probs want more offense fake out and redirection

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