VGC Team Building Help: Tyranitar & Sinistcha Strategy

Summary

In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members are collaborating to refine a competitive team featuring Tyranitar, Sinistcha, and Garchomp. The discussion covers tactical adjustments, such as using Curse on Sinistcha to counter setup sweepers and addressing weaknesses against Ice-type moves and fast attackers. This thread highlights the community's commitment to helping players optimize their competitive rosters for better performance in VGC battles.

snowyledger-70 OP

Tomito built me this team, and it's actually quite good. Most often and start with: Tyranitar + Sinistcha, Aerodactyl + Sinistcha, Aerodactyl + Garchomp. And it often works out well. Trick room is countered, tail wind any other weather. Just want to say IT'S NOT a sand team. Like it is but it's not a main thing there.

Problems:
- Ice beam is a problem for my garchomp. - Everything dies from close combat. (Snizler, Mega raptor).
- When the opponent's Garchomp is faster, Earthquake on Tyrranitar.
- Need to add some move to switch opponent's Pokemon. If he has archaludon with + 3 defense and my garchom is dead. It's gg
- Whimsicott is bad too. With moon blast/ tail wind/ taunt. Sylveon with hyper voice.
- Im slow

I was thinking about replacing Ditto with something that counters Snizler/Mega Staraptor. Psychic type? Give the rotom different moves, because I rarely use light screen or swap him out but then i wouldn't have any ele/water moves. I fought we could change ditto to Aegislash and rotom to mega electros. Give Aerodactyl another item but idk.

I trust you guys :PokemonChampionsCool:
( Srr for all mistakes :irohsob: )

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snowyledger-70 OP

srr for ping

cleverinbox-49

Ok with arch u can use my tech

cleverinbox-49

Curse sinistcha : D

snowyledger-70 OP

What tach? 🧐

@cleverinbox-49 Curse sinistcha : D
cleverinbox-49

That

snowyledger-70 OP

And how to use it?

cleverinbox-49

You click curse

@cleverinbox-49 That
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My internet takes 4 business days to receive the message

cleverinbox-49

Ditto should def prob switch

@cleverinbox-49 You click curse
snowyledger-70 OP

And more details? Like i click curse on some good pokemon and thats it?

@snowyledger-70 And more details? Like i click curse on some good pokemon and thats it?
cleverinbox-49

You use it on mons that you can't hit or setup mons

@cleverinbox-49 Ditto should def prob switch
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye i know, my goat fell off :DittoWhat:

cleverinbox-49

It will take care of it for you

cleverinbox-49

Ice is resisted by steel, fire, water and ice

Fighting is resisted/immuned by fairy, psychic, ghost, flying, poison

Ground is resisted/immuned by flying, bug, grass

cleverinbox-49

:0 araquanid would be perfect for your usecase

cleverinbox-49

Or a flying fire/flying water type

@cleverinbox-49 :0 araquanid would be perfect for your usecase
snowyledger-70 OP

Who? Like ofc i know pokemon but never saw it in use

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Still i can't counter Snizler

cleverinbox-49

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snowyledger-70 OP

I know, but isn't he... weak?

cleverinbox-49

He can ohko frail yard through sun

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Has 130 spdef

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Has wide gaurd

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An ability that stops burn, makes it resist fire and makes all its water moves do double damage

snowyledger-70 OP

HOLY CRAP

cleverinbox-49

I've seen him ohko floettes and sylveons bfore

snowyledger-70 OP

So why doesn't anyone use it?

snowyledger-70 OP

This tech is op

cleverinbox-49

Cuz its weak to intimidate and slow

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So it can be damage reduced easily and clear amulet doesn't exist rn

cleverinbox-49

But if you get it online its terrifying

@cleverinbox-49 Has wide gaurd
snowyledger-70 OP

Aerodactyl has one to, it's slow too, I have water type. All down sides

cleverinbox-49

Oh shoot you have rotom

cleverinbox-49

Didn't even rlise

cleverinbox-49

Then use like talonflame with leftovers if you are crazy enough

snowyledger-70 OP

Ith I can change his form if smth

cleverinbox-49

Corv doesn't resist ice or fighting but hits both for supereffective

@cleverinbox-49 Corv doesn't resist ice or fighting but hits both for supereffective
snowyledger-70 OP

2 flying type.... so for now i change my goat ditto to araquanid and change rotom form?

snowyledger-70 OP

But now i have 3 support if i want to pick wide guard

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But lately I rarely use wide guard on aero

snowyledger-70 OP

So aero could be more offensive and araquanid could get wide guard

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho i need to change rotom form now

snowyledger-70 OP

If smth

cleverinbox-49

Rotom grass is nice for rain and rotom heat is nice for sun

@cleverinbox-49 Rotom grass is nice for rain and rotom heat is nice for sun
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/kowalski-noted-1

@cleverinbox-49 Rotom grass is nice for rain and rotom heat is nice for sun
snowyledger-70 OP

So we come to the conclusion that what form? Like only type i won't have is Microwave and Refrigerator

cleverinbox-49

I think rotom heat would work tbh

cleverinbox-49

Gives a nice fire water grass combo

@cleverinbox-49 I think rotom heat would work tbh
snowyledger-70 OP

Can you tell me what stats? Moves?

snowyledger-70 OP

With araquanid too 🥹

cleverinbox-49

Ok araquanid runs liquidation, protect, wide gaurd and another move that is kinda up to you but surf, reflect and endeavour are prob the best 3

cleverinbox-49

Its max hp max attack with attack boosting and speed reducing if you are using surf or special reducing otherwise + mystic water to secure ohkos

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Rotom heat can run the same set as wash but with overheat, although its most commonly used with scarf since its the more offensively inclined one

@cleverinbox-49 Rotom heat can run the same set as wash but with overheat, although its most commonly used with sca…
snowyledger-70 OP

I changed his form in Pokemon Violet and my stats reset

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https://klipy.com/gifs/smart-patrick-big-brain

@cleverinbox-49 Ok araquanid runs liquidation, protect, wide gaurd and another move that is kinda up to you but sur…
snowyledger-70 OP

Lunge?

cleverinbox-49

Ik people like using bug moves on araquanid but think abt it

cleverinbox-49

Name one mon thats either quad weak to bug or resists water AND is weak to bug aside from meowscarada

snowyledger-70 OP

Admant Nature

@cleverinbox-49 Name one mon thats either quad weak to bug or resists water AND is weak to bug aside from meowscara…
snowyledger-70 OP

Em...... Whimsicott?

snowyledger-70 OP

Wait no

cleverinbox-49

Fairy and ghost both resist bug

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Why? I have no clue but they do

snowyledger-70 OP

BuffBugPokemon

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And rotom? Like overheat, Volt switch, protect and?

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With leftovers

cleverinbox-49

Reflect ig

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Willow is technically better but it can miss so I like reflect more

snowyledger-70 OP

Had it before and never used

snowyledger-70 OP

Like rotom is never first + he won't have light clay

cleverinbox-49

Ok then what if you ran scarf overheat, volt switch, electroweb, trick?

cleverinbox-49

Scarf rotom can outspeed and slow down mega aero so you can train your other mons to then outspeed and ko

snowyledger-70 OP

Pls no scarf, it's pain in the butt and it should be deleted from the game ( i just hate it )

cleverinbox-49

Uh ok

cleverinbox-49

Then why not just run lightclay rotom?

@snowyledger-70 Pls no scarf, it's pain in the butt and it should be deleted from the game ( i just hate it )
cleverinbox-49

Didn't you use scarf dito tho?

@cleverinbox-49 Scarf rotom can outspeed and slow down mega aero so you can train your other mons to then outspeed…
snowyledger-70 OP

Max speed and ? In ev?

@cleverinbox-49 Didn't you use scarf dito tho?
snowyledger-70 OP

I regret it every day, lost round because of it

@snowyledger-70 Max speed and ? In ev?
cleverinbox-49

Uh I have a set for wash rotom, would be basically the same for heat rotom but different secondary move

@cleverinbox-49 Then why not just run lightclay rotom?
snowyledger-70 OP

Because never comes out first, but it's better than scarf.

snowyledger-70 OP

Im just too stupid for it

cleverinbox-49

Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 11 HP / 25 SpA / 30 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Electroweb
- Trick

snowyledger-70 OP

Why trick tho? Like it swaps user held item with opponent

cleverinbox-49

You are scarf

cleverinbox-49

Imagine what would happen if say farig became scarf suddenly

snowyledger-70 OP

Good thinking but situational

snowyledger-70 OP

pein of trick room user

snowyledger-70 OP

But i kill farig with knock of mega tyranitar

snowyledger-70 OP

Will-o-wisp, Poltergeist, Sub with leftovers, helping hand?

snowyledger-70 OP

Like im just looking

cleverinbox-49

Def not poltergeist or substitute

cleverinbox-49

Overheat and volt switch make more sense

cleverinbox-49

But the helping hand and willow tech is intriguing

snowyledger-70 OP

Thx

snowyledger-70 OP

Noe i need to shiny hunt

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