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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime server is hosting a lively debate regarding the ethics of criticizing capitalism while utilizing its services. Members are discussing whether it is hypocritical to condemn the system while benefiting from its innovations. This thread highlights the community's diverse perspectives on economic systems, innovation, and the importance of maintaining a balanced viewpoint in online discourse.

quiethammer-89 OP

You cannot hate capitalism and use goods and services provided by them.
you would be a hypocrite.

quiethammer-89 OP

a reasonable way would be to appreciate some innovation it has caused while also acknowledging its flaws. not being hateful constantly about it all the time.

quiethammer-89 OP

balanced opinion and not blatant hatred

quiethammer-89 OP

i wannahear yalls toughts on this

quiethammer-89 OP

thoughts*

quiethammer-89 OP

i just dont like hypocrisy of them complaining constantly while using the things created by capitalism

quiethammer-89 OP

thanks

@quiethammer-89 You cannot hate capitalism and use goods and services provided by them. you would be a hypocrite.
jadetiger-51

Sidewalks are public, why are you walking on sidewalks? Capitalism is better right? I monetized the sidewalk, you have to pay me to walk on them now.

Oxygen is public, and free, why are you breathing it? you should pay for it, you thief, I monetized air, you need to pay me for every breath you take now.

You support capitalism wholly, so that means you better not have gone to a public school, or visited a public library, or shat in a public restroom.

jadetiger-51

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@quiethammer-89 balanced opinion and not blatant hatred
quiethammer-89 OP

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quiethammer-89 OP

cant you read?

quiethammer-89 OP

its about balanced opinion

quiethammer-89 OP

not worshipping capitalism

quiethammer-89 OP

why do people like you pick extreems

quiethammer-89 OP

extremes*

quiethammer-89 OP

i never said its flawless or perfect, it has many flws. my point is people who hate capitalism and blame it for everything dont acknowledge the good aspects of it

its hypocritical

@quiethammer-89 its about balanced opinion
jadetiger-51

You mentioned balanced opinion, please acknowledge it's 'flaws'

I don't think you're well versed enough to know them, but surprise me, you have the floor.

@jadetiger-51 You mentioned balanced opinion, please acknowledge it's 'flaws' I don't think you're well versed en…
quiethammer-89 OP

jesus do you not understand the take?
the monopolistic aspect, lobbying, dynamic pricing and enshittification are its flaws.

now tell me some benefits tht capitalism has that socialism can never provide. provide the other side of it

@quiethammer-89 jesus do you not understand the take? the monopolistic aspect, lobbying, dynamic pricing and enshit…
jadetiger-51

I'd say, innovation, and economic growth.

@jadetiger-51 I'd say, innovation, and economic growth.
quiethammer-89 OP

freedom of choices and options, large scale unemployment, some meritocracy albeit flawed

@quiethammer-89 freedom of choices and options, large scale unemployment, some meritocracy albeit flawed
jadetiger-51

Do you have freedom of choice, financially, as you are right now in this capitalistic society.

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@jadetiger-51 Sidewalks are public, why are you walking on sidewalks? Capitalism is better right? I monetized the…
jadetiger-51

The point of this take.

jadetiger-51

is to target your premise of, "Oh? You don't like capitalism? but you use the fruits of capitalism? you're a hypocrite."

@jadetiger-51 Do you have freedom of choice, financially, as you are right now in this capitalistic society. 💀
quiethammer-89 OP

yep. i do. if i want a service or goods for most things i have choices. for food i have 100s of restaurants, for tech, for jobs, for banking

jadetiger-51

By also issuing my own premise that many of the things you enjoy are government funded.

quiethammer-89 OP

some secotrs have monopoly, but largely speaking there's plenty of choices

@jadetiger-51 is to target your premise of, "Oh? You don't like capitalism? but you use the fruits of capitalism?…
quiethammer-89 OP

dont put words in my mouth. i never said that

@quiethammer-89 freedom of choices and options, large scale unemployment, some meritocracy albeit flawed
jadetiger-51

Wait large scale unemployment???? as a benefit capitalism can provide that socialism can't??

@quiethammer-89 dont put words in my mouth. i never said that
jadetiger-51

I was summarizing.

@jadetiger-51 Wait large scale unemployment???? as a benefit capitalism can provide that socialism can't??
quiethammer-89 OP

yep. socialism large scale employement has been a disaster. soviet union is the perfect example

@jadetiger-51 I was summarizing.
quiethammer-89 OP

its not summarizing if you push your agenda by falsely summarizing my words

@quiethammer-89 yep. socialism large scale employement has been a disaster. soviet union is the perfect example
jadetiger-51

Soviets aren't socialists, or well, aren't TRUE socialists anyway.

True socialism requires workers to directly own and democratically manage the means of production. In the Soviet Union, control was held by a centralized, authoritarian bureaucratic elite rather than the workers themselves.

jadetiger-51

The Soviet model as "state capitalism" or a totalitarian system rather than genuine socialism.

@jadetiger-51 Soviets aren't socialists, or well, aren't TRUE socialists anyway. True socialism requires workers…
quiethammer-89 OP

which country would you say is truly socialist then

@quiethammer-89 which country would you say is truly socialist then
jadetiger-51

Off the top of my head, the closest estimate I can think of is Cuba, before the US funded a campaign to topple him.

jadetiger-51

Lemme find a few links.

jadetiger-51

Not cuba

jadetiger-51

CHILE.

@jadetiger-51 Not cuba
quiethammer-89 OP

cuba is socialist too

@jadetiger-51 CHILE.
quiethammer-89 OP

"Chile is primarily a mixed-market capitalist economy, though its government features a strong democratic socialist presence. The country operates as a high-income, open-market economy heavily rooted in private enterprise."

quiethammer-89 OP

i dont agree chile is truly socialist

@quiethammer-89 cuba is socialist too
jadetiger-51

Yeah but the example I was thinking of is chile when it was still socialist.

@jadetiger-51 Yeah but the example I was thinking of is chile when it was still socialist.
jadetiger-51

lemme find links.

jadetiger-51

and videos that mention it.

jadetiger-51

uhh nvm can't send links here, I'll dm it to u.

@jadetiger-51 Yeah but the example I was thinking of is chile when it was still socialist.
quiethammer-89 OP

is there maybe a reason why socialist countries are so rare and often end up turning into capitalist

quiethammer-89 OP

or having coups

@quiethammer-89 is there maybe a reason why socialist countries are so rare and often end up turning into capitalist
jadetiger-51

Well, Chile, in this example, had rebel groups funded by the USA.

@jadetiger-51 Well, Chile, in this example, had rebel groups funded by the USA.
quiethammer-89 OP

to counter that, many capitalist countries hae had rebel groups, terrorism, but still managed to survive, grow

while many socialist countries have a coup and change.

maybe one is more fragile

jadetiger-51

A brief google search later, I have found at least 3 more examples of the USA funding rebel groups to overthrow and take down socialist countries.

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