Mega Gengar VGC Team Building Guide | Pokémon Champions

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server hosts an in-depth discussion on optimizing a Mega Gengar and Kommo-o core. Community members explore move sets, pivot options like Incineroar and Rotom-Wash, and alternative strategies to maximize Gengar's potential beyond traditional perish trap builds. This thread provides valuable insights for competitive players looking to refine their team synergy and tactical approach in the current VGC meta.

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

I decided I want to revisit my first team in champions being the mega-gengar and kommo-o pairing. Right now, I am restarting from scratch using the duo. Scarf ninetales is here to fix my garchomp matchups even if they are choice scarfed. A few issues i've come along during this process is deciding what gengar's last move should be (taunt slot), whether to keep moonblast on ninetales, and last 3 members to choose from that could enable my mega gengar mode and/or pivot to another strategy (trick room for example) if mega Gengar does not work for the matchup.

cosmicmeadow-33 OP
cosmicmeadow-33 OP

did you deadass type that long just to respond with a simple sentence

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

:intherain:

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

perish trap is not my cup of tea thats why im avoiding it for now

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

i believe mega gengar has other uses outside of being a perish trap bot

@cosmicmeadow-33 i believe mega gengar has other uses outside of being a perish trap bot
nobleanchor-28

haze/corrosive gas/hypnosis/pain split max phys bulk. This is the way.

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

forgot corrosive gas even existed

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

what would haze really accomplish outside of staraptor matchups

@cosmicmeadow-33 what would haze really accomplish outside of staraptor matchups
nobleanchor-28

Calm mind floette, if thats even still being run. Toxic would be better but less funny

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

toxi 💤

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

haven't seen calm mind floettes in a while but they usually wouldn't set up in front of a gengar

nobleanchor-28

i was today years old when i realized the moves dream eater and nightmare no longer exist

@cosmicmeadow-33 haven't seen calm mind floettes in a while but they usually wouldn't set up in front of a gengar
nobleanchor-28

no ofc, but you gotta keep em on their toes /j

nobleanchor-28

real talk, i would add incin and bulky rotom wash

nobleanchor-28

both can pivot, give nice type coverage, and rotom packs speed control in eweb

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

this was my old team btw
https://pokepast.es/bedab135637ee89d

nobleanchor-28

probably chomp last for stab ground, but any phys ground type will do. Hippowdon is interesting cause it provides yawn next to shadow tag, but you could do that with swampert as well, freeing up a slot for replacing rotom wash. Im quite partial to gliscor (especially if you run toxic ggar, but dont do that because its pretty bad)

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

i was genuinely on crack with the kommo-o build

nobleanchor-28

Unironically, palafin could be great with gengar, facilitates the flip turn pivot by how much pressure it applies

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

i am keeping mind of zard Y and trick room matchups

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

and tailwind as well

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

zard Y can easily run through my team without kommo-o to wall it assuming it does not run air slash

nobleanchor-28

tsareena gives prio blocking, grass stab, and u turn. Although if you are saying TW/TR is the concern, a whimsicott may be on order. Can run both and still have moonblast and either protect or encore.

nobleanchor-28

encore whims with disable gengar is interesting personally

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

im also considering disable on gengar as a taunt replacement

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

but i already have fast encore with ninetales

@nobleanchor-28 i was today years old when i realized the moves dream eater and nightmare no longer exist
briskbadger-60

They nerfed Gengar so hard

briskbadger-60

I believe his ability also change (?)

silvercactus-53

It's really good together though lol

silvercactus-53

Offensively

merrykitten-85

Covers the fairy weakness

silvercactus-53

Also traps Pokémon that are weak to it

silvercactus-53

As an added bonus

silvercactus-53

So he can setup freely

merrykitten-85

I see this gengar more frequently these days

merrykitten-85

Does make team preview confusing

merrykitten-85

Pretty sure last one I battled had a non mega Zard

@silvercactus-53 It's really good together though lol
cosmicmeadow-33 OP

exactly why im running kommo-o as a gengar partner but im still having trouble slotting in the last 3 members

@cosmicmeadow-33 exactly why im running kommo-o as a gengar partner but im still having trouble slotting in the last…
silvercactus-53

Low-key like the idea lemme think

silvercactus-53

Do you not want shadow ball

silvercactus-53

It's good offensively

silvercactus-53

Usually gengar is offensive if not in perish song

silvercactus-53

It is really strong

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

i was holding onto shadow ball

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

if i cant make any other move work ill go shadow ball

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

theres still the elephant in the room

cosmicmeadow-33 OP

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