Metagross Dnite Team Struggles & Tuning

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server hosts an in-depth discussion on optimizing Metagross and Dragonite team compositions. Members analyze team synergy, share Poképaste links, and troubleshoot laddering struggles on Pokémon Showdown. This thread provides valuable insights into competitive VGC meta-game adjustments, including move-set optimization and effective counter-play strategies for current tournament formats.

cleverinbox-49 OP

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I began making this team when I rlised that I couldn't rly use scrafty gengar that well.

I could have just switched back to my gard dnite team but I rly wanted something new

And I think I might be going freaking insane cuz like, I don't understand what I am doing wrong. Every pokemon induvidually feel amazing (except maybe farig) and the team seems like it should work theoretically but while I did rise for a bit to like 1500 I have now fallen literally all the way to 1100, a record row for me (showdown)

I do not understand wtf is wrong. But something is rly wrong and it needs to be changed

cleverinbox-49 OP
cleverinbox-49 OP

https://pokepast.es/525ade10b71f8742

cleverinbox-49 OP

This was the old version with some modifications

cleverinbox-49 OP

🙁

cleverinbox-49 OP

But araquanid is my homie

cleverinbox-49 OP

Ok Ig I'll look for others

merrykitten-85

Haha yeah I knew you wouldn’t like me saying

I got foul play on my farig now just for an easier kill on basc but seems it helps with meta also

merrykitten-85

Kingambits keep being sash too

merrykitten-85

Farig can’t hit with them twin beam

cleverinbox-49 OP

All the other widegaurd users kinda suck ngl

merrykitten-85

Yeah they do
I dont run it but seeing why you think you’d need it running a mega steel type

merrykitten-85

I’m laddering again I’ll send any metagross teams I see here haha

@merrykitten-85 Yeah they do I dont run it but seeing why you think you’d need it running a mega steel type
cleverinbox-49 OP

https://pokepast.es/525ade10b71f8742

cleverinbox-49 OP

Wht abt something like this?

merrykitten-85

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merrykitten-85

Funny I can see your team composition in this

merrykitten-85

I’d prefer araq over toxapex for sure

cleverinbox-49 OP

Ew yard

cleverinbox-49 OP

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@merrykitten-85 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1522860023632494722/1522881828418093238/IMG_0975.jp…
cleverinbox-49 OP

Ik that like yard works well with metagross but I rly don't wanna run weather

cleverinbox-49 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2643776436

cleverinbox-49 OP

This was so freaking satisfying

cleverinbox-49 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2643780872

cleverinbox-49 OP

Haze is rly fun

merrykitten-85

Not many metagross on ladder for me to show you past hour

cleverinbox-49 OP

I thought it would be useless this format but literally everybody either runs setup, or defiant or a move which lowers their oppenents stats

merrykitten-85

I am dealing with belly drum Azumarill now tho
Fml

@merrykitten-85 I am dealing with belly drum Azumarill now tho Fml
cleverinbox-49 OP

I considered him multiple times but I like araquanid ans primarina better

merrykitten-85

I’m testing sitrus farig
Pretty sure mental herb is the way if you play safely

merrykitten-85

It super powered me to death.

cleverinbox-49 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2643782409-von4r4thb2iv1njf21e5jntjtdbxq5hpw

cleverinbox-49 OP

Coaching body press metagross is actually terrifying

cleverinbox-49 OP

I am a bit worried that this is starting to delve into the realm of protect the mega territory but its not that far gone so its prob fine

cleverinbox-49 OP

Prob..

merrykitten-85

I encountered non mega metagross

Next to I think grim or sab

It used swagger on it then the meta was holding the confusion heal berry

merrykitten-85

Very bo1

merrykitten-85

It beat me

merrykitten-85

Pretty sure it was with perish politoad and maybe taunt gengar

cleverinbox-49 OP

I mean it makes sense ig

cleverinbox-49 OP

They don't want it getting intimidated so they used a clear body mon

cleverinbox-49 OP

And metagross is pretty useful in its base form too

cleverinbox-49 OP

Since I am using 2 base 600 megas, I can just bring both somethimes and mega the one that I think is more useful given the surcumstances

merrykitten-85

Yeah it did make sense ! Honestly was something that was very common in sword and shield

Weakness policy also because it’s stats can go up but not down

merrykitten-85

lol

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merrykitten-85

It whirlwinded me

merrykitten-85

I am in the swamps and it suck’s

cleverinbox-49 OP

Oof

cleverinbox-49 OP

Werent you like master ball 1 a bit back?

merrykitten-85

Yeah rn 30 thousand

Kinda losing back to back

merrykitten-85

Has gotta be a focus thing ?

cleverinbox-49 OP

Ye that happens to me too

merrykitten-85

It’s dragon tailing me actually lol

cleverinbox-49 OP

Reg dnite is scary cuz it has such a diverse movepool you have no idea what to expect

@cleverinbox-49 Werent you like master ball 1 a bit back?
happykitten-50

What’s the cutoff for MB1?

merrykitten-85

So much effort it’s annoying
I see why everyone gets tilted

happykitten-50

I forgor

@cleverinbox-49 Reg dnite is scary cuz it has such a diverse movepool you have no idea what to expect
merrykitten-85

Yeah with venu tho too on a rain team

How am I to know what’s going to happen.

merrykitten-85

It’s smart because I can’t fake it out

merrykitten-85

So I like fell directly into their trap haha

cleverinbox-49 OP

So its their dedicated anti tr tool eh?

cleverinbox-49 OP

Thats interesting

merrykitten-85

Seems like it yeah

merrykitten-85

I always fake out venu

merrykitten-85

Can’t risk sleep

cleverinbox-49 OP

I aint clicking tailwind a lot but I thinks thats cuz I keep forgetting my mega dnite has inner focus in its base form

cleverinbox-49 OP

I have gauranteed tailwind but I aint using it

@cleverinbox-49 I aint clicking tailwind a lot but I thinks thats cuz I keep forgetting my mega dnite has inner foc…
merrykitten-85

Hahaha drampa is interesting to use like that too

Yeah d nite is like impossible to shut down

I guess maybe mega froslas can

merrykitten-85

Triple axel

@merrykitten-85 Triple axel
cleverinbox-49 OP

Tripple axel is annoying asf

cleverinbox-49 OP

Although Ik which pokemon have it so I aint caught off gaurd when it happens

merrykitten-85

It’s like a true d nite bypasser lol

@cleverinbox-49 Although Ik which pokemon have it so I aint caught off gaurd when it happens
merrykitten-85

It is obvious who has it

Seems any Mon who can learn it tho almost always run it hash

cleverinbox-49 OP

Ye

@merrykitten-85 Hahaha drampa is interesting to use like that too Yeah d nite is like impossible to shut down I gue…
cleverinbox-49 OP

I mean not exactly, multiscale dnite can actually live a frosslass blizzard

cleverinbox-49 OP

And often runs flamethrower or heatwave to hit you for supereffective

merrykitten-85

I wondered why you felt that was so needed

merrykitten-85

Seen it on your more recent d nite I think

cleverinbox-49 OP

Ye

cleverinbox-49 OP

I used flamethrower for a while but heatwave gets the same 2hkos and means I don't need to predict protects, switches or redirections

cleverinbox-49 OP

Or freaking ally switch

merrykitten-85

Running flamethrower on drampa rn might try heatwave after some testing

@merrykitten-85 Running flamethrower on drampa rn might try heatwave after some testing
cleverinbox-49 OP

It also rarely misses but I think thats just dragonite being a G.

I think flamethrower is prob better on drampa since you alr have hypervoice for spread damage but maybe heatwave will be useful

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cleverinbox-49 OP

: ( too many yards

cleverinbox-49 OP

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cleverinbox-49 OP

When there is a rockslide there is a way ig

cleverinbox-49 OP

Worst part is that I might have been able to win had I fake'd out the primarina

cleverinbox-49 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2643797286 - Had the poison not activated I'd have been so cooked

cleverinbox-49 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2643820541-b3nlld4u3k1pbca2odruue7v04n3uyfpw - Coaching is fun

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