Sylveon Bulky EV Spread Help
Summary
In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement asks for EV spread advice to make Sylveon a bulkier alternative sweeper that works in both trick room and tailwind. Topics include shifting HP to defense, surviving physical hits, comparisons to Mega Floette and Gardevoir, and team tempo with Kingambit speed investments.
The role for my sylveon in this team is to be an alternative sweeper that works both in trick room or tailwind when mega pyroar isn't the best against their team. Sylveon naturally has shit defense stat, so im thinking to remove some off its hp and putting it on def, but idk the exact calcs and how much i should remove and put on so any input would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe a secondary mega
well the original team that i based this on had mega floette but i cant get that
sylveon so far is working graet but it kinda dies too quick
Aside from that pretty good
Gardevoir?
ooo i did not consider that
is it a special or phy attacke
Special
gardevoir works in trick room and tailwind?
Both
cause my team is flexible and works in both
Its 120 speed
isnt that quite high
No likr
100 base speed
Bcause 120 without investment
i see, ill defo consider mega gardevior when i get it but can u give some advice on my stat spread for sylveon?
Its hypervoices actually hit harder than mega floettes dazzling gleams
It seems fine rn tbh
You can never rly go wrong with maxing out 2 stats
oh wow
i did not know that
hmm, then why does my sylveon die so quick when it takes a normal attack.
Obv not optimal but I haven't rly played sylveon so I don't rly know what the optimal spreads
Physical attack I'd assumem
fair, im not tryna spend an hour doing the maths lol
i see
do you have time to answer one more question about this team?
Its kinda frail physically but not rly bulky specially
Sure
sneasler isnt an issue, since farigraf one taps it lol.
Are you running psychic or twin beam?
okay so my newest addition to this team is king gambit instead of basc, because its bulkier and its base speed is 70, im thinking whether i should invest some into its base speed and get it upto 80 to outspeed some faster pokemon in tailwind
psychic
ohhh i did not consider that
ty ill do that
Twin beam better incase sash sneasler. Some people even run psychic noise to bully stuff like sinistcha but thats rly nieche
Uhhhhhhh, what item and moveset. If its choppel then no, cuz you need the investment to survive cc, if its any other item then maybe
item life orb, and move set sucker punch, clawtow kleave, iron head and protect.
Hm
I'm running life orb over sunglasses for more damage since the other members in my team don't use it
more dps and boosts iron head asw
Welllllllllllll
You could try life orb farig
Cuz kingambit doesn't need life orb for its dark attacks and I don't think life orb changes the calcs for iron head too much but I have to check
Nvm
Nvm, nvm. I was like wow it ohkos floette, then I looked at the non life orb calcs and it still does
so life orb doesn't change any big interactions?
wouldn't that make him die quicker, my giraffe has hhelping hand, protect, trick room, and physic ( will change to twin beam ), its job is to stay alive and support and kill sneasler thats about it.
Nope, ttar seemingly still lives and all the fairy types alr got ohkod
Oh wait you don't have hyper voice or thunderbolt
Nvm then
nah its a full support giraffe
as for the speed stat is it worth increasing to outspeed some key threads in tailwind?
Sure ig
Who do you wanna outspeed tho?
i have a question all pokemon are level 50 in champions right?
Ye
cause im kinda confused cause im looking at a website checking speed tiers and it says king gambit speed is 50/70 and im kinda confused
i think that means its base speed is 50 and but at level its 70, is that correct?
Nah opposite
Base speed is 50 I think but ivs make that 70 since all pokemon have permanents 31 ivs now
so ingame is it 50 or 70? 😅
70
I see, anyways that would make it 140 in tailwind and I can't think of any mons that i would wanna outspeed rn so ill just keep the speed the same and do some testing and then adjust, ty for ur help on my team ill switch pshyic to twinbeam and test mega gardvenoir instead of sylveon on my team
can i close this thread since im done with it or does it just stay up?
It stays up for future reference
Got it, thank you for your help again and have a lovely day!
Can u explain what u mean again pls? because the website says its 120 at level 50 which u said all pokemons are level 50 ingame.
Discord sent us an expired image link.
ohh did u mean to use a negative speed nature?
Ok so 100 is the base speed if you were to get gard in any gave
Iv's were like this old system that influenced pokemon stats
But in champions all pokemon with ivs were set to 31 ivs, so those things can't change
31 iv gard is 120 speed, so you can basically consider gard to have 120 speed
Its kinda confusing tbh, it was useful competitively but kinda hard to wrap your head around to begin with so ivs got basically scrapt
yeah i can see why
its much better this way
I'd say to just go to showdown, make a team under reg m-b and see what the stats are for each pokemon
damn have some love for the brainfart noobs 😔
isn't more people coming to competitive pokemon a good thing for the game as a whole.
